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(12-04-2013, 12:02 AM)_imp Wrote: (12-03-2013, 01:08 PM)dBuster_imp Wrote: I see what ferret is saying that higher math where you have a full tank by looking in the tank not using the gauge on the instrument cluster that has been pointed out by some to be faulty from many magazine quotes, then riding a certain amount of miles then filling up again using the same method of ignoring the gauge.
Now in my old school math I would take the miles traveled divided by the fuel used to get the miles per gallon. Maybe the new math has some formula to factor in a gauge that doesn't need to be factored in as we were not discussing the mileage in relation to the bars on the gauge but rather the mileage in relationship to the amount of gas put in the bike...
But I think we all can agree that the gas gauge, and not in relation to the miles per gallon we are getting, leaves a lot to be desired as it varies from bike to bike with how it functions. And the function of the gas gauge has nothing to do with how much we put in the tank and how many miles we ride on those gallons of gas. The gauge is in my opinion just a tool, albeit not a good one for letting us know if we have gas in the tank or not.
Now back to the miles per gallon. Ferret, I travel 107 miles then put in 2.8 gallons of gas filling to the same point in the tank by visually looking in the tank while I fill. Can you help me out with how many miles per gallon I am getting?
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How did you know when to stop the bike and look inside the
tank and gauge if the spot was relatively the same area where
you filled the last time.Each time you stop and look inside
the tank requires using the key.So either you had yer spare
key available or you had to physically stop the bike and turn
off.
umm this is simpler than you think oh wise one...
I decided to stop and get gas at or about that point in time. Plus the wife on her Scooter gets about 110 miles per gallon and we ride together quite a lot and when she gets gas I top off.
Even if I hadn't just stopped, after my first tank I realized how many miles I can go per so much gas I know when to gas up. My prior bike did not have a fuel gauge so my riding habits about fueling up come from riding that bike...
Better to get gas before needing it than having to need it and not have it.
If it means anything each time I fill up that faulty fuel indicator on the dash has been flashing each time, sometimes it had just started to flash other times it has been flashing for miles. BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GAUGE. The gauge is just an instrument and has no bearing on your actual miles per gallon. Unless of course it changes the size of your tank and regulates how much fuel it takes to fire in a cylinder and uses more when it feels like....
Wait that must be it! Foolardi, you know of some secret technology that has been built into the bikes in conjunction with the fuel gauge to where the gauge causes either more or less fuel to be consumed per mile traveled!!! Now is this like the rev limiter? Can we disable this new technology you know of?
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This is more comical than an oil thread!! 
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(12-04-2013, 03:30 AM)dBuster_imp Wrote: (12-04-2013, 12:02 AM)_imp Wrote: (12-03-2013, 01:08 PM)dBuster_imp Wrote: I see what ferret is saying that higher math where you have a full tank by looking in the tank not using the gauge on the instrument cluster that has been pointed out by some to be faulty from many magazine quotes, then riding a certain amount of miles then filling up again using the same method of ignoring the gauge.
Now in my old school math I would take the miles traveled divided by the fuel used to get the miles per gallon. Maybe the new math has some formula to factor in a gauge that doesn't need to be factored in as we were not discussing the mileage in relation to the bars on the gauge but rather the mileage in relationship to the amount of gas put in the bike...
But I think we all can agree that the gas gauge, and not in relation to the miles per gallon we are getting, leaves a lot to be desired as it varies from bike to bike with how it functions. And the function of the gas gauge has nothing to do with how much we put in the tank and how many miles we ride on those gallons of gas. The gauge is in my opinion just a tool, albeit not a good one for letting us know if we have gas in the tank or not.
Now back to the miles per gallon. Ferret, I travel 107 miles then put in 2.8 gallons of gas filling to the same point in the tank by visually looking in the tank while I fill. Can you help me out with how many miles per gallon I am getting?
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How did you know when to stop the bike and look inside the
tank and gauge if the spot was relatively the same area where
you filled the last time.Each time you stop and look inside
the tank requires using the key.So either you had yer spare
key available or you had to physically stop the bike and turn
off.
umm this is simpler than you think oh wise one...
I decided to stop and get gas at or about that point in time. Plus the wife on her Scooter gets about 110 miles per gallon and we ride together quite a lot and when she gets gas I top off.
Even if I hadn't just stopped, after my first tank I realized how many miles I can go per so much gas I know when to gas up. My prior bike did not have a fuel gauge so my riding habits about fueling up come from riding that bike...
Better to get gas before needing it than having to need it and not have it.
If it means anything each time I fill up that faulty fuel indicator on the dash has been flashing each time, sometimes it had just started to flash other times it has been flashing for miles. BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GAUGE. The gauge is just an instrument and has no bearing on your actual miles per gallon. Unless of course it changes the size of your tank and regulates how much fuel it takes to fire in a cylinder and uses more when it feels like....
Wait that must be it! Foolardi, you know of some secret technology that has been built into the bikes in conjunction with the fuel gauge to where the gauge causes either more or less fuel to be consumed per mile traveled!!! Now is this like the rev limiter? Can we disable this new technology you know of?
umm this is simpler than you think oh wise one...
I decided to stop and get gas at or about that point in time. Plus the wife on her Scooter gets about 110 miles per gallon and we ride together quite a lot and when she gets gas I top off.
Even if I hadn't just stopped, after my first tank I realized how many miles I can go per so much gas I know when to gas up. My prior bike did not have a fuel gauge so my riding habits about fueling up come from riding that bike...
Better to get gas before needing it than having to need it and not have it.
If it means anything each time I fill up that faulty fuel indicator on the dash has been flashing each time, sometimes it had just started to flash other times it has been flashing for miles. BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GAUGE. The gauge is just an instrument and has no bearing on your actual miles per gallon. Unless of course it changes the size of your tank and regulates how much fuel it takes to fire in a cylinder and uses more when it feels like....
Wait that must be it! Foolardi, you know of some secret technology that has been built into the bikes in conjunction with the fuel gauge to where the gauge causes either more or less fuel to be consumed per mile traveled!!! Now is this like the rev limiter? Can we disable this new technology you know of?
Have no idea what yer saying.A fuel gauge is used to tell one
how much gas is in the tank.No one said or hinted or arrived at any
assumption that a fuel gauge's purpose is to better mileage.
of course a fuel gauge can't in and of itself improve mileage.
But a fuel gauge that is that far off from telling how much actual
gas is in the tank does not make it easier to improve gas mileage.
Meaning it is self-defeating.Very unproductive.
How come nobody noticed my comparable bike.
The 1976 Kawasaki 900 LTD.
The Kawasaki Concours { 2001 } had fuel mileage of 34.8
The Triumph TT 600 {inline four} got 42/33/38 { high/low/avg.}
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That reminds me of when I was on the way back from Sturgis on my old hog. It had quite a good crusing range because I had made the gas tank myself out of a fender from a '41 Buick. It was somewhere around Billings when it started to sputter so I threw the petcock into reserve and the sediment in the bottom of the tank was sucked out and stuck the needle valve so that the carb overflowed and caught fire and burned up the wires, leaving me and the old lady stranded. Luckily, I carried a roll of wire and some butt splices. Borrowed some pliers from the fire department and rewired the basics there on the side of the road so that it would run, but I had no lights. My old lady, who had been struck by lightning the night before while riding all night, was still a little shakey and didn't want to ride the rest of the way, went into town and caught a plane back to Seattle, leaving me to fend for myself. So I fired up that ol pan head, which I had modified to run 4 valve and 2 spark plug heads, and ran it nonstop wide open all the way to Seattle and actually made it to the airport ahead of her plane in time to give her a ride the rest of the way home.
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This is getting quite hillarious!!!
I have heard it all! Now it is known! some secret technology built into that fuel gauge. or any fuel gauge for that matter.
As Foolardi said: "But a fuel gauge that is that far off from telling how much actual gas is in the tank does not make it easier to improve gas mileage."
Not sure how a fuel gauge can make it easier to improve gas mileage...
To me the only way to improve gas mileage would be changing riding habits, keeping the wind to your back, getting a wind screen to help with aerodynamics, lightening the bike and rider, using some clothing that reduces drag from wind, but never a fuel gauge...
Oh wait I got it! The fuel gauge Foolardi is referring to, or is expecting it to act like, lets out electrical charges to shock you into changing your riding habits, tucking into a more aerodynamic riding position, turning to keep the wind at your back, etc...
How much gas is in a tank does not determine how far you can go on a gallon or pint or liter of gas, hence the fuel gauge telling you how much is there doesn't determine how far you can go per gallon. You could have a tank that only holds a pint and in the end your math to get the miles per gallon works out to be the same. Change your tank out for a smaller one or a larger one and keep your riding habits the exact same and I bet your miles per gallon remain the same.
Once again though, this is quite hilarious! Like someone mentioned this is almost as good as a thread on oil!!!
(12-04-2013, 04:52 AM)Deanohh_imp Wrote: That reminds me of when I was on the way back from Sturgis on my old hog. It had quite a good crusing range because I had made the gas tank myself out of a fender from a '41 Buick. It was somewhere around Billings when it started to sputter so I threw the petcock into reserve and the sediment in the bottom of the tank was sucked out and stuck the needle valve so that the carb overflowed and caught fire and burned up the wires, leaving me and the old lady stranded. Luckily, I carried a roll of wire and some butt splices. Borrowed some pliers from the fire department and rewired the basics there on the side of the road so that it would run, but I had no lights. My old lady, who had been struck by lightning the night before while riding all night, was still a little shakey and didn't want to ride the rest of the way, went into town and caught a plane back to Seattle, leaving me to fend for myself. So I fired up that ol pan head, which I had modified to run 4 valve and 2 spark plug heads, and ran it nonstop wide open all the way to Seattle and actually made it to the airport ahead of her plane in time to give her a ride the rest of the way home.
What kind of gas mileage did you get?! Before and after the re-wire!
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What's the hells wrong with you'all.Afraid of what this Bike might
tell mommy.How's yuz supposed to know how much fuel is in the
durngull tank.Stick yer finger in thar.Use one them cardboard tongue
depressers like at the doctor's office.
I suppose { actually I don't } the same silly argument can and has
been made to justify a speedo that is way off.
Oh what difference does a speedo make.Or Oh what difference does the
tire gauge make.Or whether you can read those little numbers on
a spark plug feeler if it's all worn down.
Nuthin' makes any real difference.
That's it Danny.Nuthin' and ta hell and back and who gives
a fig.Surely no one's CB 1100's mommy.
I'm not gonna let this CB's fuel gauge beat me.I just have to figure what each
bar translates to and how much is in the tank when the red Warning appears
and when it flashes.Somewhere in the vicinity of 90 + miles
and maybe 114 miles.
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(12-04-2013, 07:33 AM)_imp Wrote: What's the hells wrong with you'all.Afraid of what this Bike might
tell mommy.How's yuz supposed to know how much fuel is in the
durngull tank.Stick yer finger in thar.Use one them cardboard tongue
depressers like at the doctor's office.
I suppose { actually I don't } the same silly argument can and has
been made to justify a speedo that is way off.
Oh what difference does a speedo make.Or Oh what difference does the
tire gauge make.Or whether you can read those little numbers on
a spark plug feeler if it's all worn down.
Nuthin' makes any real difference.
That's it Danny.Nuthin' and ta hell and back and who gives
a fig.Surely no one's CB 1100's mommy.
I'm not gonna let this CB's fuel gauge beat me.I just have to figure what each
bar translates to and how much is in the tank when the red Warning appears
and when it flashes.Somewhere in the vicinity of 90 + miles
and maybe 114 miles.
Thats in the owners manual. I think it was quoted earlier in this thread also. If memory serves me right its either .8 or .9 gals.
On a side not: Foolardi why are all your post aligned on the left hand side? To me at least, it makes it hard to follow your "train of thought". Maybe that imparts some confusion into the issue.
and yes having a fuel gauge that doesnt tell you how much gas you actually have is a pain. BUT......... with a carbed bike we had a petcock to be able to switch reserve. So use the "unproductive" fuel gauge as the same way. Disregaurd the bars UNTIL!!!! you get to the last blinking bar. That is now your reserve. Look for a fuel station......
Knowing your gas mileage helps to know how far you have with that last bit of gas, for me i know as of now at max i have 30 miles. For others it could be higher or lower depending on their setup, mods, and riding habits.
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(12-04-2013, 08:22 AM)kenfyoozed_imp Wrote: (12-04-2013, 07:33 AM)_imp Wrote: What's the hells wrong with you'all.Afraid of what this Bike might
tell mommy.How's yuz supposed to know how much fuel is in the
durngull tank.Stick yer finger in thar.Use one them cardboard tongue
depressers like at the doctor's office.
I suppose { actually I don't } the same silly argument can and has
been made to justify a speedo that is way off.
Oh what difference does a speedo make.Or Oh what difference does the
tire gauge make.Or whether you can read those little numbers on
a spark plug feeler if it's all worn down.
Nuthin' makes any real difference.
That's it Danny.Nuthin' and ta hell and back and who gives
a fig.Surely no one's CB 1100's mommy.
I'm not gonna let this CB's fuel gauge beat me.I just have to figure what each
bar translates to and how much is in the tank when the red Warning appears
and when it flashes.Somewhere in the vicinity of 90 + miles
and maybe 114 miles.
Thats in the owners manual. I think it was quoted earlier in this thread also. If memory serves me right its either .8 or .9 gals.
On a side not: Foolardi why are all your post aligned on the left hand side? To me at least, it makes it hard to follow your "train of thought". Maybe that imparts some confusion into the issue.
and yes having a fuel gauge that doesnt tell you how much gas you actually have is a pain. BUT......... with a carbed bike we had a petcock to be able to switch reserve. So use the "unproductive" fuel gauge as the same way. Disregaurd the bars UNTIL!!!! you get to the last blinking bar. That is now your reserve. Look for a fuel station......
Knowing your gas mileage helps to know how far you have with that last bit of gas, for me i know as of now at max i have 30 miles. For others it could be higher or lower depending on their setup, mods, and riding habits.
Bingo!
The only part of the fuel gauge that is really accurate is the flashing bar.
Depending on my riding style, the last bar might start flashing after 118 miles (city riding) or 140 miles (leisurely highway riding). Doesn't matter when it starts flashing, when it does, I know I've got a gallon left.
At that point it's exactly the same as if I'd switched to reserve on a bike without a gauge. Time to plan a fuel stop.
I haven't run the tank dry yet, but I have pushed it on a couple of occasions and put 3.6 gallons back in.
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Okay I got it, when the fuel gauge flashes you are on reserve.
But the topic of this thread is the miles per gallon the bike gets not the miles per fuel gauge bar or gallons or fractions there of per fuel gauge bar...
If someone is going to figure how much each one of those silly bars represents go for it. Start a different thread with that as the topic, or maybe I will do that.
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1740
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(12-04-2013, 12:29 PM)dBuster_imp Wrote: Okay I got it, when the fuel gauge flashes you are on reserve.
But the topic of this thread is the miles per gallon the bike gets not the miles per fuel gauge bar or gallons or fractions there of per fuel gauge bar...
If someone is going to figure how much each one of those silly bars represents go for it. Start a different thread with that as the topic, or maybe I will do that.
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1740
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This is true....ok back on topic 
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