04-30-2018, 08:47 AM
(04-29-2018, 03:06 AM)Bobcat_imp Wrote:(03-06-2018, 10:37 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: Brought the bike back to the dealer today. Sunny day, so they were able to ride the bike and do their thing.
First off, the Service Manager called Honda to see whether they would authorize a warranty job for squealing brakes. Apparently the answer was yes, because he went ahead with the job. I told him what people here have been advising, i.e., apply brake grease behind the pads, and file off the edges of the pads.
Those two things are exactly what Honda recommended to his service tech, and that's what the guy did.
When the job was finished, I took her out for a quick hundred-mile spin in the foothills. There was one instance when I thought I might have heard some slight squealing, so I removed my earplugs and rode the rest of the way without them. I'm not sure, but there was one additional time when I thought I might have heard a tiny bit of squeal, but it was iffy. It may have been the cars in front of and beside me. Otherwise, there were many other slow, gradual stops that were completely silent. I tried like crazy to make them squeal, and even without earplugs they passed all my usual tests.
So, either it's 100% fixed, or very close to 100%. Hopefully this proves to be a permanent solution.
I have had the same issue with my 2017 EX and plan to bevel the pad edges and add some grease to interface between the pads and pistons. I'll reply back once I know if it solves my problem.
Just a note for anyone who might be planning to perform the same procedure: the factory service manual states that the caliper mounting bolts need to be replaced rather than reused. I assume that means they are a torque-to-yield type of bolt. The part number for the bolt is 90131-MGC-000.
(04-29-2018, 07:19 AM)SportsterDoc_imp Wrote:(04-29-2018, 03:06 AM)Bobcat_imp Wrote:(03-06-2018, 10:37 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: Brought the bike back to the dealer today. Sunny day, so they were able to ride the bike and do their thing.
First off, the Service Manager called Honda to see whether they would authorize a warranty job for squealing brakes. Apparently the answer was yes, because he went ahead with the job. I told him what people here have been advising, i.e., apply brake grease behind the pads, and file off the edges of the pads.
Those two things are exactly what Honda recommended to his service tech, and that's what the guy did.
When the job was finished, I took her out for a quick hundred-mile spin in the foothills. There was one instance when I thought I might have heard some slight squealing, so I removed my earplugs and rode the rest of the way without them. I'm not sure, but there was one additional time when I thought I might have heard a tiny bit of squeal, but it was iffy. It may have been the cars in front of and beside me. Otherwise, there were many other slow, gradual stops that were completely silent. I tried like crazy to make them squeal, and even without earplugs they passed all my usual tests.
So, either it's 100% fixed, or very close to 100%. Hopefully this proves to be a permanent solution.
I have had the same issue with my 2017 EX and plan to bevel the pad edges and add some grease to interface between the pads and pistons. I'll reply back once I know if it solves my problem.
Just a note for anyone who might be planning to perform the same procedure: the factory service manual states that the caliper mounting bolts need to be replaced rather than reused. I assume that means they are a torque-to-yield type of bolt. The part number for the bolt is 90131-MGC-000.
I understand that they are an ALOC bolt with blue Loctite pre-applied.
Don't know if bolt stretch is the issue or just be sure to use Loctite.
If you do re-use, be sure to first remove old Loctite with wire brush and/or acetone, etc.
(03-06-2018, 10:52 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: Perfection is a real problem. I realize this now, with this bike. The cosmetics are so gorgeous that I lose my mind the second I spot a speck of grease on a wheel, a scuff mark where my knees contact the side of the tank, a swirl pattern or slight haze on the tank, polish lines in the instrument display, etc.
I was similarly anal about my first VFR. I haven't been that anal about any other bike, until now, with this CB1100.
I really need to knock it off, before I drive myself crazy and/or stop enjoying the bike.
Is crazy really such a negative thing?!
Someone on another site pointed out that the Honda service manual specifies the use of thread locking compound when reusing bolts that need it, so it may not be a matter of simply putting Loctite on the old caliper bolts. I can't say if this is correct, but the logic makes sense to me. After some consideration I decided to order four new bolts on-line for about $2.50 USD each. Perhaps completely unnecessary, but I'll sleep better!
