11-22-2016, 06:51 PM
The curious thing about the Coriolis effect is that it works both ways and what seems peculiar is a matter of perspective. But I digress.
In summary:
[li]rotor can't be doing with ABS—I think for reasons of cost-benefit;[/li] [li]Ulvetanna reckons a well trained rider can do it better, except in the wet at which time if he's on his F800GS he'll switch it back on;[/li] [li]the Ferret has posted evidence of one test that shows three riders of different skill levels all stopped more quickly with ABS in the wet;[/li] [li]caseyjones has offered a link to a study saying "... there is more than sufficient scientific-based evidence to support the implementation of ABS on all motorcycles, even light ones". It wasn't clear to me from the abstract exactly what circumstances the evidence allegedly showed would be mitigated. Presumably accidents or the severity of injury in accidents.[/li] [li]rotor questioned the wisdom of seeing statistical analysis of a fact as being a fact in itself; and[/li] [li]rotor then moved us to the far more profound question: "Will this process of governments deciding what's good for us ever end? "; and[/li] [li]the Ferret says no on the basis that "Bureaucrats feel it is their job to protect us from ourselves"
[/li] I remain of the view that, if I could have bought a CB1100 fitted with ABS, I would have. I'm not such a good rider that it is likely not to be of use to me in the sort of emergencies for which it is designed to provide assistance. I'm not persuaded I ever could be. I am also not quite stupid enough to believe that having ABS would make me either bulletproof or invulnerable to skidding. However, I'm prepared to suck up not having it for the sake of owning this bike.
I know I shouldn't go anywhere near rotor's and Ferret's final conversation, but I feel obliged to remind you both of something. While it is true that certain bureaucrats are unlikely to let up in their quest to save us all, they generally do it at the behest of their political masters who are looking for band aids to apply to serious wounds. The decision always rests with the politicians and we can all try to influence them as best we can. How successful that will be depends on a whole range of factors too many to contemplate here.
Finally, and as somewhat of a digression from ABS, but still on the subject of braking, the author of the on-line journal that gave us yesterday's discussion starter, also posted a piece on some lessons he learned from being off his bike for a bit. The article is [url=https://motorbikewriter.com/four-lessons-learnt-bike/]here and I draw your attention to the second lesson.
Here endeth the first.
In summary:
[li]rotor can't be doing with ABS—I think for reasons of cost-benefit;[/li] [li]Ulvetanna reckons a well trained rider can do it better, except in the wet at which time if he's on his F800GS he'll switch it back on;[/li] [li]the Ferret has posted evidence of one test that shows three riders of different skill levels all stopped more quickly with ABS in the wet;[/li] [li]caseyjones has offered a link to a study saying "... there is more than sufficient scientific-based evidence to support the implementation of ABS on all motorcycles, even light ones". It wasn't clear to me from the abstract exactly what circumstances the evidence allegedly showed would be mitigated. Presumably accidents or the severity of injury in accidents.[/li] [li]rotor questioned the wisdom of seeing statistical analysis of a fact as being a fact in itself; and[/li] [li]rotor then moved us to the far more profound question: "Will this process of governments deciding what's good for us ever end? "; and[/li] [li]the Ferret says no on the basis that "Bureaucrats feel it is their job to protect us from ourselves"
[/li] I remain of the view that, if I could have bought a CB1100 fitted with ABS, I would have. I'm not such a good rider that it is likely not to be of use to me in the sort of emergencies for which it is designed to provide assistance. I'm not persuaded I ever could be. I am also not quite stupid enough to believe that having ABS would make me either bulletproof or invulnerable to skidding. However, I'm prepared to suck up not having it for the sake of owning this bike.
I know I shouldn't go anywhere near rotor's and Ferret's final conversation, but I feel obliged to remind you both of something. While it is true that certain bureaucrats are unlikely to let up in their quest to save us all, they generally do it at the behest of their political masters who are looking for band aids to apply to serious wounds. The decision always rests with the politicians and we can all try to influence them as best we can. How successful that will be depends on a whole range of factors too many to contemplate here.
Finally, and as somewhat of a digression from ABS, but still on the subject of braking, the author of the on-line journal that gave us yesterday's discussion starter, also posted a piece on some lessons he learned from being off his bike for a bit. The article is [url=https://motorbikewriter.com/four-lessons-learnt-bike/]here and I draw your attention to the second lesson.
Here endeth the first.