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2019 Motorcycle Show - Cleveland
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(01-26-2019, 01:08 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 12:55 PM)Stichill_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 12:28 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 09:29 AM)Stichill_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 08:05 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I didn't realize GC were imported from China. Guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

I think he misspoke. They are made in Taiwan. Apparently the bike is more-or-less a clone of a Honda CB400SS. I'm not sure to what degree (if any) Honda was involved, i.e. did they license the design of the engine, etc.

Edit: [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]This article reveals that the bike is in fact made in China by Sineray, who previously manufactured the CB400SS for Honda.

Speaking of the engine, apparently it's a single-cylinder with two exhaust valves / ports which is why it looks like a parallel twin.

[Image: 0aafe59cb8c8fcc61e3943b9dde1ac93.jpg]

Interesting review of the working prototype from [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/exclusive-first-ride-genuine-g400c-motorcycle/]scooterfile.com.

I think he misspoke. They are made in Taiwan. Apparently the bike is more-or-less a clone of a Honda CB400SS. I'm not sure to what degree (if any) Honda was involved, i.e. did they license the design of the engine, etc.

Edit: [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]This article reveals that the bike is in fact made in China by Sineray, who previously manufactured the CB400SS for Honda.

Speaking of the engine, apparently it's a single-cylinder with two exhaust valves / ports which is why it looks like a parallel twin.

[Image: ae22ce02c7ca9cd5bb02cf98a7d6ca7e.jpg]

Interesting review of the working prototype from [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/exclusive-first-ride-genuine-g400c-motorcycle/]scooterfile.com.
Nice ground work Stichill. Based on previous readings, the bike appears to hold some level of quality and/or curiosity and enthusiasm. I suspect equivalent class Japanese return/retro models are concerned over competitive pricing.

Thanks, GO. I would agree that this bike sets a floor on quality and a ceiling on price for cycles in this class. I had never heard of this bike before this weekend. It piqued my interest at the IMS Cleveland because it was placed amongst the vintage bikes. Although it looked vintage, upon closer inspection it was evidently new and seemed to be well-made with quality fit and finish. I enjoy lightweight bikes and I appreciate the classic looks, so I would really like to take one out for a spin.

I think the Taiwan confusion stems from the ignition and electronics coming from Taiwan whereas the bike is primarily made and assembled in China. Interestingly, the FI is Siemens. [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]More details about the bike.

Thanks, GO. I would agree that this bike sets a floor on quality and a ceiling on price for cycles in this class. I had never heard of this bike before this weekend. It piqued my interest at the IMS Cleveland because it was placed amongst the vintage bikes. Although it looked vintage, upon closer inspection it was evidently new and seemed to be well-made with quality fit and finish. I enjoy lightweight bikes and I appreciate the classic looks, so I would really like to take one out for a spin.

I think the Taiwan confusion stems from the ignition and electronics coming from Taiwan whereas the bike is primarily made and assembled in China. Interestingly, the FI is Siemens. [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]More details about the bike.
Not a problem (RE Taiwan). I read the full article and other references within the article. I agree - there is something fun about this "organic" model. I don't think they are available in Canada (yet?), however, Cleveland/Detroit is a fun round day trip (or overnight, if lazy) from north shore Lake Ontario. Buffalo/Rochester is even closer. If you happen to be lucky to sample a ride, please feel free to share with the Forum. I would be interested.

The writer was 6'3" and indicated the [pre-production] bike was actually practical to ride. This is encouraging.

BTW: I checked out oil changes for this engine (I understand the history of the engine design). It is a dry sump, and it has many more steps than the CB. This is by no means a show stopper, just some really old-school maintenance that requires a bit more time.

Business opportunity? North of the border they're to be marketed by "Gold Motorcycles"?! Big Grin

(01-26-2019, 01:08 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 12:55 PM)Stichill_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 12:28 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 09:29 AM)Stichill_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 08:05 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I didn't realize GC were imported from China. Guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

I think he misspoke. They are made in Taiwan. Apparently the bike is more-or-less a clone of a Honda CB400SS. I'm not sure to what degree (if any) Honda was involved, i.e. did they license the design of the engine, etc.

Edit: [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]This article reveals that the bike is in fact made in China by Sineray, who previously manufactured the CB400SS for Honda.

Speaking of the engine, apparently it's a single-cylinder with two exhaust valves / ports which is why it looks like a parallel twin.

[Image: 0aafe59cb8c8fcc61e3943b9dde1ac93.jpg]

Interesting review of the working prototype from [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/exclusive-first-ride-genuine-g400c-motorcycle/]scooterfile.com.

I think he misspoke. They are made in Taiwan. Apparently the bike is more-or-less a clone of a Honda CB400SS. I'm not sure to what degree (if any) Honda was involved, i.e. did they license the design of the engine, etc.

Edit: [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]This article reveals that the bike is in fact made in China by Sineray, who previously manufactured the CB400SS for Honda.

Speaking of the engine, apparently it's a single-cylinder with two exhaust valves / ports which is why it looks like a parallel twin.

[Image: ae22ce02c7ca9cd5bb02cf98a7d6ca7e.jpg]

Interesting review of the working prototype from [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/exclusive-first-ride-genuine-g400c-motorcycle/]scooterfile.com.
Nice ground work Stichill. Based on previous readings, the bike appears to hold some level of quality and/or curiosity and enthusiasm. I suspect equivalent class Japanese return/retro models are concerned over competitive pricing.

Thanks, GO. I would agree that this bike sets a floor on quality and a ceiling on price for cycles in this class. I had never heard of this bike before this weekend. It piqued my interest at the IMS Cleveland because it was placed amongst the vintage bikes. Although it looked vintage, upon closer inspection it was evidently new and seemed to be well-made with quality fit and finish. I enjoy lightweight bikes and I appreciate the classic looks, so I would really like to take one out for a spin.

I think the Taiwan confusion stems from the ignition and electronics coming from Taiwan whereas the bike is primarily made and assembled in China. Interestingly, the FI is Siemens. [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]More details about the bike.

Thanks, GO. I would agree that this bike sets a floor on quality and a ceiling on price for cycles in this class. I had never heard of this bike before this weekend. It piqued my interest at the IMS Cleveland because it was placed amongst the vintage bikes. Although it looked vintage, upon closer inspection it was evidently new and seemed to be well-made with quality fit and finish. I enjoy lightweight bikes and I appreciate the classic looks, so I would really like to take one out for a spin.

I think the Taiwan confusion stems from the ignition and electronics coming from Taiwan whereas the bike is primarily made and assembled in China. Interestingly, the FI is Siemens. [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]More details about the bike.
Not a problem (RE Taiwan). I read the full article and other references within the article. I agree - there is something fun about this "organic" model. I don't think they are available in Canada (yet?), however, Cleveland/Detroit is a fun round day trip (or overnight, if lazy) from north shore Lake Ontario. Buffalo/Rochester is even closer. If you happen to be lucky to sample a ride, please feel free to share with the Forum. I would be interested.

The writer was 6'3" and indicated the [pre-production] bike was actually practical to ride. This is encouraging.

BTW: I checked out oil changes for this engine (I understand the history of the engine design). It is a dry sump, and it has many more steps than the CB. This is by no means a show stopper, just some really old-school maintenance that requires a bit more time.

I'm short and I have a buddy who is tall above average. We both have similar but opposite problems finding bikes and riding pants to fit us. ROFL

(01-26-2019, 01:08 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 12:55 PM)Stichill_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 12:28 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 09:29 AM)Stichill_imp Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 08:05 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I didn't realize GC were imported from China. Guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

I think he misspoke. They are made in Taiwan. Apparently the bike is more-or-less a clone of a Honda CB400SS. I'm not sure to what degree (if any) Honda was involved, i.e. did they license the design of the engine, etc.

Edit: [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]This article reveals that the bike is in fact made in China by Sineray, who previously manufactured the CB400SS for Honda.

Speaking of the engine, apparently it's a single-cylinder with two exhaust valves / ports which is why it looks like a parallel twin.

[Image: 0aafe59cb8c8fcc61e3943b9dde1ac93.jpg]

Interesting review of the working prototype from [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/exclusive-first-ride-genuine-g400c-motorcycle/]scooterfile.com.

I think he misspoke. They are made in Taiwan. Apparently the bike is more-or-less a clone of a Honda CB400SS. I'm not sure to what degree (if any) Honda was involved, i.e. did they license the design of the engine, etc.

Edit: [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]This article reveals that the bike is in fact made in China by Sineray, who previously manufactured the CB400SS for Honda.

Speaking of the engine, apparently it's a single-cylinder with two exhaust valves / ports which is why it looks like a parallel twin.

[Image: ae22ce02c7ca9cd5bb02cf98a7d6ca7e.jpg]

Interesting review of the working prototype from [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/exclusive-first-ride-genuine-g400c-motorcycle/]scooterfile.com.
Nice ground work Stichill. Based on previous readings, the bike appears to hold some level of quality and/or curiosity and enthusiasm. I suspect equivalent class Japanese return/retro models are concerned over competitive pricing.

Thanks, GO. I would agree that this bike sets a floor on quality and a ceiling on price for cycles in this class. I had never heard of this bike before this weekend. It piqued my interest at the IMS Cleveland because it was placed amongst the vintage bikes. Although it looked vintage, upon closer inspection it was evidently new and seemed to be well-made with quality fit and finish. I enjoy lightweight bikes and I appreciate the classic looks, so I would really like to take one out for a spin.

I think the Taiwan confusion stems from the ignition and electronics coming from Taiwan whereas the bike is primarily made and assembled in China. Interestingly, the FI is Siemens. [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]More details about the bike.

Thanks, GO. I would agree that this bike sets a floor on quality and a ceiling on price for cycles in this class. I had never heard of this bike before this weekend. It piqued my interest at the IMS Cleveland because it was placed amongst the vintage bikes. Although it looked vintage, upon closer inspection it was evidently new and seemed to be well-made with quality fit and finish. I enjoy lightweight bikes and I appreciate the classic looks, so I would really like to take one out for a spin.

I think the Taiwan confusion stems from the ignition and electronics coming from Taiwan whereas the bike is primarily made and assembled in China. Interestingly, the FI is Siemens. [url=http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/genuine-g400c-motorcycle-in-detail/]More details about the bike.
Not a problem (RE Taiwan). I read the full article and other references within the article. I agree - there is something fun about this "organic" model. I don't think they are available in Canada (yet?), however, Cleveland/Detroit is a fun round day trip (or overnight, if lazy) from north shore Lake Ontario. Buffalo/Rochester is even closer. If you happen to be lucky to sample a ride, please feel free to share with the Forum. I would be interested.

The writer was 6'3" and indicated the [pre-production] bike was actually practical to ride. This is encouraging.

BTW: I checked out oil changes for this engine (I understand the history of the engine design). It is a dry sump, and it has many more steps than the CB. This is by no means a show stopper, just some really old-school maintenance that requires a bit more time.

Good to know.
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2019 Motorcycle Show - Cleveland - by Tebs_imp - 01-26-2019, 01:44 AM
RE: 2019 Motorcycle Show - Cleveland - by Stichill_imp - 01-26-2019, 02:02 PM

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