12-25-2018, 04:20 AM
(12-24-2018, 11:09 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I have not ridden a Grom or a Monkey but I have ridden Z50's, CT 70's, CA 100's, Ca 105's CL 70's and lord knows a zillion other small displacement cheaply suspended small motorcycles from Honda (and others) in the 17 years I was in the motorcycle business.
Are these guys (in the attached videos) riding on the dangerous tires and lousy suspension? Because neither one complained about either the tires, traction or suspension. They did complain about the rear brakes, and the first one complained about the clutch, but they both seemed to ride them pretty hard on the straights and in the corners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrYs9jN9EdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5nFBNPKqpU
Look, I don't doubt that some people will upgrade the suspension. There are people that complain about and upgrade the suspension on practically every bike made (including the CB 1100), but I doubt the Monkeys (or Groms) are truly dangerous as delivered from Honda. I guess if we start seeing class action lawsuits from people dying in fiery crashes while on Monkey bikes then I will have been proven wrong.
Been wrong before, and will be wrong in the future too, I suppose.
cant say anything the brakes since one has to ride a bike hard to know if brakes are descent or not.
That said, this Austrian guy named Schaaf (AWSOME riding vids
) gives every bike he rides the full beans.And no straight line riding on his channel

Its the hardest riding I've seen anyone do on the new Monkey:
He seems to like the brakes.
Somewhere in this video, the reviewer talks about the IMU abs brakes being necessary, because if not a hard brake would almost certainly result in stoppies

Schaaf repeatedly rides the small 125cc engine at top speed, being able to do that on any bike must be a hoot, and certainly on those Austrian mountain roads.
