10-24-2016, 11:03 AM
Ulvetanna Wrote:Replacing cams is .... really, it isn't that hard, but it is a few hours work for the CB1100, and fraught with peril for the non-mechanic. Not to mention it would completely void the bike's warranty.
If someone pays a shop to adjust their valves, swapping the cams at the same time is trivial.
Warranty is 1 year from purchase, no? Most people are out of warranty.
You should come to the car world- even less people tear into their own engines but COUNTLESS guys pay a shop to make their car faster. Just because someone doesn't do their own engine work doesn't mean a product shouldn't exist.
Ulvetanna Wrote
ince the bike does not have a chassis up to handling any more power. Yep, I mean any more. Even five horses is too much more for this bike. I just spent all day tearing around our local canyons confirming that once again. It don't have the suspenders or gridwork for putting 100 horse to the ground.
Again, I disagree.
Plenty of worse handling bikes have had more power than this. Sorry if your skills or balls aren't up to the task.
(joke)
On a serious response- who said power has to be only used in a corner at speed? I'd counter that most people floor it on straightaways... in fact, that is where max throttle, max rpm is used.
Ulvetanna Wrote:because a change in camshaft makes a reflash absolutely necessary; it could not be done safely or correctly without that.
I'd wager the bike would run fine on cams as is. To make optimum gains, retune should be done on ANY mod- exhaust, intake, cams, you name it. But start, idle and run ok? Cams will be fine. These aren't carbs.
Ulvetanna Wrote:The last thing most owners want is more top end. Shoulda bought another bike for that; BMW's RNineT, Triumph's Thruxton 1200, those are retros with good top end.
I hate that statement. I do not know how old you are, or how much experience you have with bikes- but I'd expect that response out of a young newb that thinks only the latest greatest sport bike can have power.
Give me a break, there are people who hotrod ANY type of motorcycle. And even the people on here that tend to put around (I am one of them these days) still open the throttle every once in a while and if the bike is capable of a little more excitement through rev range without a loss at normal RPM ridden then there is nothing to loose other than money.
If someone pays a shop to adjust their valves, swapping the cams at the same time is trivial.
Warranty is 1 year from purchase, no? Most people are out of warranty.
You should come to the car world- even less people tear into their own engines but COUNTLESS guys pay a shop to make their car faster. Just because someone doesn't do their own engine work doesn't mean a product shouldn't exist.
Ulvetanna Wrote
ince the bike does not have a chassis up to handling any more power. Yep, I mean any more. Even five horses is too much more for this bike. I just spent all day tearing around our local canyons confirming that once again. It don't have the suspenders or gridwork for putting 100 horse to the ground. Again, I disagree.
Plenty of worse handling bikes have had more power than this. Sorry if your skills or balls aren't up to the task.
(joke) On a serious response- who said power has to be only used in a corner at speed? I'd counter that most people floor it on straightaways... in fact, that is where max throttle, max rpm is used.
Ulvetanna Wrote:because a change in camshaft makes a reflash absolutely necessary; it could not be done safely or correctly without that.
I'd wager the bike would run fine on cams as is. To make optimum gains, retune should be done on ANY mod- exhaust, intake, cams, you name it. But start, idle and run ok? Cams will be fine. These aren't carbs.
Ulvetanna Wrote:The last thing most owners want is more top end. Shoulda bought another bike for that; BMW's RNineT, Triumph's Thruxton 1200, those are retros with good top end.
I hate that statement. I do not know how old you are, or how much experience you have with bikes- but I'd expect that response out of a young newb that thinks only the latest greatest sport bike can have power.
Give me a break, there are people who hotrod ANY type of motorcycle. And even the people on here that tend to put around (I am one of them these days) still open the throttle every once in a while and if the bike is capable of a little more excitement through rev range without a loss at normal RPM ridden then there is nothing to loose other than money.