2017 CB1100 price $12,199 plus shipping

[flynrider]

Anyone know when the 2017's will make it to dealers in the US?

I've seen a few motorcycle publications saying it'll be available in May. If the 2013/14 are any indication an April/May timeframe would be about right.

[Lunatic Fringe_imp]

The 2017 looks nice, I like the twin exhausts and the new beefier looking tank. Spokes are a nice touch, tubeless rims I assume right? There are definately more state of the art standard bikes on the market with a bunch more performance which is a great thing for the riding public. Choice and competition generally bring about discounts eventually.

There was a time that I thought I would buy an old cb750 and restore it but the lust just kinda faded. Haven't bought a bike in 6 years so until I feel that urge to spend cash the machines I have will be what I will ride.

[the Ferret]

Nope tube type

[Lunatic Fringe_imp]

Well heck!!!!I guess it really is going retro. I owned many a bike with tubes and spoke wheels in the past but they were cheap $1000 or less old ujms. Given the choice I gotta say it would be hard not to look at the suzuki gsxs1000, FZ-10, even the bandit 1250 for a more modern feel. Darn, spokes were the mark of a budget street bike back in the day, cast wheels meant deluxe.

I get that the cb's mission is to be a retro experience down to the spokes which is pretty cool ..but..... What would make me interested in spending cash is a freddie spencer replica with the 80's F model body work using a spiced up cb1100 engine with some top end to it. While I'm hallucinating lets add some serious suspension, 17 wheels, modern tubless sticky ickies, hellified brakes, room for two and what the heck abs. If they could get the power up to the 1983 cb1100f levels I would consider it at 12k.

[the Ferret]

Back in my day spokes/ tubes were on every new bike even the most expensive ones. I bought a set of Lester Mag wheels for my KZ1000 Kawasaki,(the most powerful bike of the day), in 1977 which came with spoke wheels. Few bikes had mags. They had to be bought from the aftermarket.

The 1976 Yamaha RD400 was the first production bike from a major manufacturer to come with Mag wheels stock (but still used tubes). In 1977 Honda introduced the Comstart wheel (a multi piece riveted design) and was the first manufacturer to offer tubeless tires as standard equipment.

My 2003 Triumph came with spokes and tubes. My brothers 2016 Triumph also came with spokes and tubes.

[LongRanger_imp]

Ferret, my '78 CB750F2 came with Comstars and I'm pretty sure they had tubes. I'll check my owner's manual tonight. I used to run bias-ply Continental K112's on the rear (and RB2's on the front) -- remember those? They were the PR4's of the day!

[the Ferret]

well since you said that I went and did some research and what I found out was, surprisingly enough, there are two versions of the early silver SOHC 750 comstars - tube and tubeless. Although they were designed to be tubeless some of the early ones were shipped with tubes in the tires. If they have a metal retaining nut on the valve stem they are tubed. Some of the wheels were also stamped tubeless and some were not according to what I can dig up.

this from Wiki

The Comstar was Honda's replacement for the tension spoked wheel. Whilst spoked wheels offered a degree of flexibility to help absorb road imperfections, they also required periodic maintenance to ensure correct spoke tension and required the fitment of an inner tube. Honda claimed the Comstar design combined the strength of a cast wheel but allowed a predetermined level of radial flex like spoked wheels.[7]:27 Comstar wheels also allowed the fitment of tubeless tyres which, like other alloy wheels,[8] helped to reduce unsprung mass,[9] although not all models fitted with Comstars had tubeless tyres....... Honda first fitted Comstars to its road going motorcycles in 1977 on models such as the CB400T Dream, CB750F2 and the later flagship CBX1000.

[ClassicVW_imp]

Wiki can certainly be fishy.
I don't think the 400T was ever referred to as a 'dream'. I've owned a couple of them. They did have Comstars and I recall they were tubeless.

[rboe]

Once you get yours we'll have to meet up - not sure I want to get a 17, my 13 is doing a good job pushing all my buttons. And I'm not keen on having two of them. I like diversity.

Rboe, who is it you'll have to meet up with "when they get theirs"? Flynrider? He's had a CB1100 for a couple of years.

Rboe, who is it you'll have to meet up with "when they get theirs"? Flynrider? He's had a CB1100 for a couple of years.
Flynrider. When he gets the 2017 model.

[LongRanger_imp]

Ferret, my '78 CB750F2 came with Comstars and I'm pretty sure they had tubes. I'll check my owner's manual tonight. I used to run bias-ply Continental K112's on the rear (and RB2's on the front) -- remember those? They were the PR4's of the day!

From my '78 CB750F2 owner's manual:

"Riding with underinflated tires will cause the tires to slip on the rims damaging the inner tube valves."

"We recommend that punctured inner tubes be replaced. Inner tubes should be patched only in emergency situations when replacement tubes are not available."

"The innertube size must correspond with the tire casing size or it will cause the tube to wrinkle or to be stretched beyond its designed capacity. In either case the innertube will be weakened increasing the possibility of failure."

And then it describes how to remove and replace a tire, being careful to not pinch or puncture the innertube.

And now that I remember it, I had a flat tire on this bike in 1979 near Boulder, CO, and had to have the bike towed to the shop to have the tube replaced. It was on a Sunday.

Also, for kicks, the OE tires were a Dunlop K87 Mark II on the rear and a Dunlop F6 on the front, apparently for use with or without a tube according to this period advertisement:

[url=https://books.google.com/books?id=i8_7wR77B1UC&pg=RA8-PA108&lpg=RA8-PA108&dq=Dunlop+K87+Mark+II&source=bl&ots=5ZThZq7aCQ&sig=HSNB5eWXterQemrZIzUuktHJPnI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigkPio-fLRAhXHhFQKHQrhAgQQ6AEIQDAI#v=onepage&q=Dunlop%20K87%20Mark%20II&f=false]https://books.google.com/books?id=i8_7wR...II&f=false

But the Conti K112 / RB2 that I used were only available in tube-type for the sizes required (4.00H18 / 3.25H19). Too bad new tires aren't this inexpensive anymore.