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new 2014 standard price?
#1
I'm in the market for a new bike: considering...

2014 CB1100 standard $8000 + 500 for "freight/setup"
2014 MGuzzi V7 Stone (employee said $6400, but I think he goofed, will check tomorrow)
2016 Triumph Street Twin (not available till spring, prolly $8900)

What do you think of the CB1100 price for the Standard?

Thanks.
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#2
For the West Coast, I think it's a good price. I paid much more than that in March 2014. Then again, it is winter. I would have to try to get heated grips, crash bars, and luggage rack included. Of course, I tried that and failed on my own purchase, but then I completely blew my deal.

I'm an old pro at not paying a penny more than I should for an automobile, but somehow the young motorcycle salesman's tactics threw me off my game. The CB750 purchase before that, with a fellow old guy, went exactly according to plan.

Note: Research the $1000 Bonus Bucks. I'm not finding it right now, but fellow inmates will know if it's still available or not.
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#3
(12-04-2015, 07:26 PM)jerrycon_imp Wrote: For the West Coast, I think it's a good price. I paid much more than that in March 2014. Then again, it is winter. I would have to try to get heated grips, crash bars, and luggage rack included. Of course, I tried that and failed on my own purchase, but then I completely blew my deal.

I'm an old pro at not paying a penny more than I should for an automobile, but somehow the young motorcycle salesman's tactics threw me off my game. The CB750 purchase before that, with a fellow old guy, went exactly according to plan.

Note: Research the $1000 Bonus Bucks. I'm not finding it right now, but fellow inmates will know if it's still available or not.

From the dealership's own web page, I see that the $1000 "bonus bucks" is offered for the '14 Standard. I was assuming that this is why they have the $7995 price tag on it: they sell it to customer for 8K, they get a 1000 credit from Honda and it really comes out to 9k for them. But if that 1k is at play, maybe they would listen to an offer of 7750 no freight charge...a lot more palatable for me.

I'm just over 6'3". Any tall riders out there that care to comment on the ergonomics with this bike?
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#4
The V7 price looks right. They're being blown out right now to make room for the V9. That's an incredible price.

The V7 is a terrific bike, but depending on your needs, will be no match for the CB1100 in terms of power, comfort, suspension, two-up ability, or build quality in my opinion (I've owned two). That being said, it has the character, agility, and panache the Honda can't match, and it's about 150 lbs lighter if that's important to you.
(12-05-2015, 03:19 AM)pdedse_imp Wrote:
(12-04-2015, 07:26 PM)jerrycon_imp Wrote: For the West Coast, I think it's a good price. I paid much more than that in March 2014. Then again, it is winter. I would have to try to get heated grips, crash bars, and luggage rack included. Of course, I tried that and failed on my own purchase, but then I completely blew my deal.

I'm an old pro at not paying a penny more than I should for an automobile, but somehow the young motorcycle salesman's tactics threw me off my game. The CB750 purchase before that, with a fellow old guy, went exactly according to plan.

Note: Research the $1000 Bonus Bucks. I'm not finding it right now, but fellow inmates will know if it's still available or not.

From the dealership's own web page, I see that the $1000 "bonus bucks" is offered for the '14 Standard. I was assuming that this is why they have the $7995 price tag on it: they sell it to customer for 8K, they get a 1000 credit from Honda and it really comes out to 9k for them. But if that 1k is at play, maybe they would listen to an offer of 7750 no freight charge...a lot more palatable for me.

I'm just over 6'3". Any tall riders out there that care to comment on the ergonomics with this bike?
I'm 6'6", 220 lbs, 36" inseam. No issues for me whatsoever. I find my DLX to be very comfortable and capable as long as I don't expect it to be something it's not.
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#5
Tall people on cb1100...I should have searched first, found this:
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....all+riders
(12-05-2015, 03:19 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: The V7 price looks right. They're being blown out right now to make room for the V9. That's an incredible price.

The V7 is a terrific bike, but depending on your needs, will be no match for the CB1100 in terms of power, comfort, suspension, two-up ability, or build quality in my opinion (I've owned two). That being said, it has the character, agility, and panache the Honda can't match, and it's about 150 lbs lighter if that's important to you.
(12-05-2015, 03:19 AM)pdedse_imp Wrote:
(12-04-2015, 07:26 PM)jerrycon_imp Wrote: For the West Coast, I think it's a good price. I paid much more than that in March 2014. Then again, it is winter. I would have to try to get heated grips, crash bars, and luggage rack included. Of course, I tried that and failed on my own purchase, but then I completely blew my deal.

I'm an old pro at not paying a penny more than I should for an automobile, but somehow the young motorcycle salesman's tactics threw me off my game. The CB750 purchase before that, with a fellow old guy, went exactly according to plan.

Note: Research the $1000 Bonus Bucks. I'm not finding it right now, but fellow inmates will know if it's still available or not.

From the dealership's own web page, I see that the $1000 "bonus bucks" is offered for the '14 Standard. I was assuming that this is why they have the $7995 price tag on it: they sell it to customer for 8K, they get a 1000 credit from Honda and it really comes out to 9k for them. But if that 1k is at play, maybe they would listen to an offer of 7750 no freight charge...a lot more palatable for me.

I'm just over 6'3". Any tall riders out there that care to comment on the ergonomics with this bike?
I'm 6'6", 220 lbs, 36" inseam. No issues for me whatsoever. I find my DLX to be very comfortable and capable as long as I don't expect it to be something it's not.

If $6400 is true, I might go with that for the V7. I'm wondering how much of the CB1100 power gain is swallowed up by the increased weight of 100+ pounds. But since you've had both, you'd be one to know!

(12-05-2015, 03:19 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: The V7 price looks right. They're being blown out right now to make room for the V9. That's an incredible price.

The V7 is a terrific bike, but depending on your needs, will be no match for the CB1100 in terms of power, comfort, suspension, two-up ability, or build quality in my opinion (I've owned two). That being said, it has the character, agility, and panache the Honda can't match, and it's about 150 lbs lighter if that's important to you.
(12-05-2015, 03:19 AM)pdedse_imp Wrote:
(12-04-2015, 07:26 PM)jerrycon_imp Wrote: For the West Coast, I think it's a good price. I paid much more than that in March 2014. Then again, it is winter. I would have to try to get heated grips, crash bars, and luggage rack included. Of course, I tried that and failed on my own purchase, but then I completely blew my deal.

I'm an old pro at not paying a penny more than I should for an automobile, but somehow the young motorcycle salesman's tactics threw me off my game. The CB750 purchase before that, with a fellow old guy, went exactly according to plan.

Note: Research the $1000 Bonus Bucks. I'm not finding it right now, but fellow inmates will know if it's still available or not.

From the dealership's own web page, I see that the $1000 "bonus bucks" is offered for the '14 Standard. I was assuming that this is why they have the $7995 price tag on it: they sell it to customer for 8K, they get a 1000 credit from Honda and it really comes out to 9k for them. But if that 1k is at play, maybe they would listen to an offer of 7750 no freight charge...a lot more palatable for me.

I'm just over 6'3". Any tall riders out there that care to comment on the ergonomics with this bike?
I'm 6'6", 220 lbs, 36" inseam. No issues for me whatsoever. I find my DLX to be very comfortable and capable as long as I don't expect it to be something it's not.

Was at the Honda dealership yesterday and since it was rainy couldn't test ride, but they did start it up for me...wow! What a different sounding machine than other bikes I've had...sportster, klr650 and xs650.

(12-05-2015, 03:19 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: The V7 price looks right. They're being blown out right now to make room for the V9. That's an incredible price.

The V7 is a terrific bike, but depending on your needs, will be no match for the CB1100 in terms of power, comfort, suspension, two-up ability, or build quality in my opinion (I've owned two). That being said, it has the character, agility, and panache the Honda can't match, and it's about 150 lbs lighter if that's important to you.
(12-05-2015, 03:19 AM)pdedse_imp Wrote:
(12-04-2015, 07:26 PM)jerrycon_imp Wrote: For the West Coast, I think it's a good price. I paid much more than that in March 2014. Then again, it is winter. I would have to try to get heated grips, crash bars, and luggage rack included. Of course, I tried that and failed on my own purchase, but then I completely blew my deal.

I'm an old pro at not paying a penny more than I should for an automobile, but somehow the young motorcycle salesman's tactics threw me off my game. The CB750 purchase before that, with a fellow old guy, went exactly according to plan.

Note: Research the $1000 Bonus Bucks. I'm not finding it right now, but fellow inmates will know if it's still available or not.

From the dealership's own web page, I see that the $1000 "bonus bucks" is offered for the '14 Standard. I was assuming that this is why they have the $7995 price tag on it: they sell it to customer for 8K, they get a 1000 credit from Honda and it really comes out to 9k for them. But if that 1k is at play, maybe they would listen to an offer of 7750 no freight charge...a lot more palatable for me.

I'm just over 6'3". Any tall riders out there that care to comment on the ergonomics with this bike?
I'm 6'6", 220 lbs, 36" inseam. No issues for me whatsoever. I find my DLX to be very comfortable and capable as long as I don't expect it to be something it's not.

Great! Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear, my inseam is even less at 34". I do ride long distance sometimes, but my 52 year old bones and joints are still pretty good.
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#6
$1,000 Honda Bonus Bucks still available on 2014 Standards.

Regarding the 2014 Moto Guzzi V7 they're probably blowing out the old inventory since there is a revised 2016 V7 II with tweaks like a 6-speed, ABS, etc.

MG also has $1,000 Customer Cash in play for 2015 and older models.

You had a Sportster before (me too), some call the V7 the Italian Sportster. Relatively simple bike, you can do your own maintenance, etc.

Go for it on either bike!

Aloha,
Huladog
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#7
(12-05-2015, 04:24 AM)Huladog_imp Wrote: $1,000 Honda Bonus Bucks still available on 2014 Standards.

Regarding the 2014 Moto Guzzi V7 they're probably blowing out the old inventory since there is a revised 2016 V7 II with tweaks like a 6-speed, ABS, etc.

MG also has $1,000 Customer Cash in play for 2015 and older models.

You had a Sportster before (me too), some call the V7 the Italian Sportster. Relatively simple bike, you can do your own maintenance, etc.

Go for it on either bike!

Aloha,
Huladog

I agree. This is likely a better explanation than the one I offered. I stand corrected.
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#8
LongRanger, you are right about the V9 coming soon to a MG dealer near you, then again those dealers are kinda scarce compared to Honda stores!

Aloha,
Huladog


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#9
I have a 2009 MG V7 Classic, a 2012 BMW R1200R and a 2014 Honda CB1100. For the way I ride, the CB1100 is kind of a mash up of the V7 and the R12R.

The V7 is a great town bike and short touring bike. However, I have taken it on multiday 2k+ mile trips. The BMW is a great long touring bike (5k trip to Abilene, Tx in May) but falls short when putting around town. Low speed throttle response is herky jerky.

The CB seems to do both of those things well. Longest trip on it has been a 700 mile weekend jaunt, but the bike was great. Don't see a problem with taking it on a long trip. Low speed throttle response is much better than the R12R which is great for in town.

Surprisingly all three get about the same MPG, 40 something in town and 50 something on the open road.

As for fit and finish, the Honda and the MG are real close and better than the BMW.

The MG has 20k+ miles. The BMW has 25k+ miles and the CB has 3k+ miles.
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#10
(12-05-2015, 10:40 AM)Pete Erickson_imp Wrote: I have a 2009 MG V7 Classic, a 2012 BMW R1200R and a 2014 Honda CB1100. For the way I ride, the CB1100 is kind of a mash up of the V7 and the R12R.

The V7 is a great town bike and short touring bike. However, I have taken it on multiday 2k+ mile trips. The BMW is a great long touring bike (5k trip to Abilene, Tx in May) but falls short when putting around town. Low speed throttle response is herky jerky.

The CB seems to do both of those things well. Longest trip on it has been a 700 mile weekend jaunt, but the bike was great. Don't see a problem with taking it on a long trip. Low speed throttle response is much better than the R12R which is great for in town.

Surprisingly all three get about the same MPG, 40 something in town and 50 something on the open road.

As for fit and finish, the Honda and the MG are real close and better than the BMW.

The MG has 20k+ miles. The BMW has 25k+ miles and the CB has 3k+ miles.

Thank you Pete for your thoughts on the V7, CB and BMW differences. I can get a 2015 V7 for 6725 which includes freight/setup (no sales tax for me) but not tags/licensing.
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