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(12-28-2017, 06:40 AM)Haystack_imp Wrote: My 2013 CB1100 just turned 74,800 miles and for the winter I decided that it was time for some maintenance.
1) Fuel pump which really started to noticeably "whine" at 25,000 miles and which had degraded performance to the point where the motor was surging under load, needed attention. The Honda technician recommended replacing only the fuel filter, but since they can be replaced as a unit and I didn't consider that the filter was causing the annoying "whine", the pump/filter were replaced. The shop discounted $120.00 (or so they told me) for that unit for a cost of $448.00.
2) Original brake pads replaced (front 2 sets) $141.00, (rear set) $38.00
3) Fork seals $37.00
4 Hours labor @ $68.00 per hour = $272.00
Total including shop supplies = $963.63
All parts were OEM. The only other work I've had done on the bike were chain and sprockets at 54,000 miles. New air filter replacement at 50,000 mi. The valves were checked at 18,000 miles and within spec, no adjustments needed (I'll have them checked again at 100,000 miles). Original plugs are still in use. The bike runs great now and the annoying whine is gone.
I'm looking forward to ice-free roads and warmer weather next spring.
Happy New Year everyone!
Keep those miles rocking!
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Wow, good job!
Just curious, how many sets of tires? What brand?
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(12-28-2017, 06:55 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: $68/hour! I was going to say the same thing. It's $120/hour at the dealers around here.
Haystack, great job!
This. A Honda running without drama for 75,000 miles doesn’t shock me. A dealer charging only $68 / hr does!
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(12-28-2017, 11:00 AM)SportsterDoc_imp Wrote: (12-28-2017, 06:40 AM)Haystack_imp Wrote: My 2013 CB1100 just turned 74,800 miles and for the winter I decided that it was time for some maintenance.
1) Fuel pump which really started to noticeably "whine" at 25,000 miles and which had degraded performance to the point where the motor was surging under load, needed attention. The Honda technician recommended replacing only the fuel filter, but since they can be replaced as a unit and I didn't consider that the filter was causing the annoying "whine", the pump/filter were replaced. The shop discounted $120.00 (or so they told me) for that unit for a cost of $448.00.
2) Original brake pads replaced (front 2 sets) $141.00, (rear set) $38.00
3) Fork seals $37.00
4 Hours labor @ $68.00 per hour = $272.00
Total including shop supplies = $963.63
All parts were OEM. The only other work I've had done on the bike were chain and sprockets at 54,000 miles. New air filter replacement at 50,000 mi. The valves were checked at 18,000 miles and within spec, no adjustments needed (I'll have them checked again at 100,000 miles). Original plugs are still in use. The bike runs great now and the annoying whine is gone.
I'm looking forward to ice-free roads and warmer weather next spring.
Happy New Year everyone!
How do they look?
NGK LMAR8A-9S (stock 6817) are only $5.99 each at O'Reillys.
How do they look?
NGK LMAR8A-9S (stock 6817) are only $5.99 each at O'Reillys.
I pulled the plugs for the first time at 50,000 mi. and they looked excellent. Two needed re-gapped and I reinstalled them using a little Permatex anti-seize.
They were relatively easy to remove but I agree that it doesn't hurt to periodically check them. It also seems that many folks have a tendency to overtighten plugs. Tightening to proper torque specs is essential.
My goal is to run them to 100,000 mi. and report their condition as well as valve clearances at that time.
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I'm impressed by the miles in such a short time 
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(12-28-2017, 05:08 PM)offroadfx4_imp Wrote: Wow, good job!
Just curious, how many sets of tires? What brand?
I'm on my seventh rear rear tire, but one was damaged after 3,000 mi. from a nail at interstate speed (80 mph) and suddenly went flat. The bike remained under control but began to "wander" a bit. By the time I eased off of the throttle and came to a stop, the tire had come off of the bead. This event increased my confidence in motorcycle tires!
Michelin Pro Pilot was my last choice but it didn't last as long as I expected, so I've settled on the Kenda (671?) series. Dunlops seemed to have a short life as well.
On my 5th front tire now. They average 15,000 mi. for me.
No desire to start a tire thread here...
(12-28-2017, 06:52 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: $68 /hour is very good , I will bring my bikes to your dealer !
The western Nebraska agricultural economy may have something to do with shop rates here.
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I've generally done most of my routine maintenance on my old airhead BMWs and Moto Guzzis. And on a Kaw W650 ....... and a 2003 Bonneville. And others. Matter of fact, on all of my previous bikes.
However, there is just this certain something about checking the CB1100 valve clearance that makes me think " ....... off to a good dealer ...... ." Much less removing cams to get to the shim under bucket adjusters.
Just looks like way too much in between me and the valves. I know my personal limits.
Bob
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(12-28-2017, 12:57 PM)4 Paws_imp Wrote: Haystack, 75,000 miles on your CB - a man I respect. So many fickle folks chase the “ultimate” bike and trade every six months. A rare few ride for the sake of riding and realize a good solid bike (our CB) just deserves to be ridden and enjoyed.
Solid engineering too. I don't marry my motorcycles, nor sign any legal document stating I have to keep any of them. Divorce is not required to sell a bike. I can also have a "harem" of motorcycles, which I do. None seems to be jealous of any of the others, lol.
Not yet, anyway.
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(01-05-2018, 01:59 PM)ohiorider_imp Wrote: I've generally done most of my routine maintenance on my old airhead BMWs and Moto Guzzis. And on a Kaw W650 ....... and a 2003 Bonneville. And others. Matter of fact, on all of my previous bikes.
However, there is just this certain something about checking the CB1100 valve clearance that makes me think " ....... off to a good dealer ...... ." Much less removing cams to get to the shim under bucket adjusters.
Just looks like way too much in between me and the valves. I know my personal limits.
Bob
BOB... EXACT same set up on a 2003 Triumph Bonneville I'm pretty sure. I had one and checking the valves is the same procedure. There are just more of them on the Honda.
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(01-06-2018, 06:58 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: (01-05-2018, 01:59 PM)ohiorider_imp Wrote: I've generally done most of my routine maintenance on my old airhead BMWs and Moto Guzzis. And on a Kaw W650 ....... and a 2003 Bonneville. And others. Matter of fact, on all of my previous bikes.
However, there is just this certain something about checking the CB1100 valve clearance that makes me think " ....... off to a good dealer ...... ." Much less removing cams to get to the shim under bucket adjusters.
Just looks like way too much in between me and the valves. I know my personal limits.
Bob
BOB... EXACT same set up on a 2003 Triumph Bonneville I'm pretty sure. I had one and checking the valves is the same procedure. There are just more of them on the Honda.
BOB... EXACT same set up on a 2003 Triumph Bonneville I'm pretty sure. I had one and checking the valves is the same procedure. There are just more of them on the Honda. Ferret, I'm thinking more about having to remove camshafts to change shim under bucket shims on the CB. My 2003 Bonnie (and any of the 2001-2016 790 and 865 engines also required the camshaft(s) to be removed if a shim (over bucket) or shims needed changed. But the cam chain didn't have to be disturbed since the cams weren't directly driven by the chain, but by a central shaft (that ran between the cams and was driven by the timing chain.) The intake and exhaust cams were both driven by the central shaft, and cams and central shaft gears were marked for easy reassembly.
Simplest was the SOHC setup on the my W650. Intake and exhaust valves were actuated via rocker arms that (if shims needed changed) could be slid off the top of the valve stem using only finger pressure, exposing the small shim. Now that was nice.
Of course, nothing is any easier than checking and adjusting valves on the old airhead Beemer or 1151cc Guzzi engine. Locknut and screw, with cylinder heads out there in the wide open spaces.
Academic at this point, since the garage is about as cold as it is outside, so the bikes are simply resting on battery chargers. Too cold for me!
Later,
Bob
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