CB650R Neo Sports Cafe Concept

[Stichill_imp]

I had the chance to ride one of the non-Neo F models, and it really had to be revved a lot more than I'd want just to ride around town. Just not enough torque down low.

I believe that. The engine is a different animal. I'm used to riding a CBR250R, so making power with RPM is nothing that bothers me. On the other hand, not sure I'd want to manage the power curve of a CRR600RR either. The CB650R seems to strike a nice balance of the capacity to reach high RPM but tempered with a usable torque curve as well.

Well, to be honest, personally for me, if this 650 Neo Cafe came out earlier I might have get it instead of my CB1100. Nothing wrong with CB1100, but the 650 feel more lighter and more agile for daily ride. CB1100 felt like weekend relax cruise, can't fit into rushing everywhere working workhorse.

There's a lot to be said for the virtue of light weight in a motorcycle.

The [url=https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/street/cb650r-neo-sports-cafe/specifications.html#/]Honda UK site has a lot more information, including published horsepower and torque:
[ul] [li]Max. Power Output 70kW (94 HP) @ 12,000rpm[/li] [li]Max. Torque 64Nm (47 lb-ft) @ 8,500rpm
[/li][/ul]

Oooh...that MATT JEANS BLUE METALLIC one...yum!

Oooh...that MATT JEANS BLUE METALLIC one...yum!
I know! I'm envious of the UK color choices and also how the website is so much more complete than the US.

[Stichill_imp]

Screen capture from a YouTube video review.

[Guth_imp]

I like how the pipes sweep down, not unlike the waterfall pipes of the old 400SS. Not a bad looking bike. That seat doesn’t look too comfortable though.

You and me both KE. Way back when Honda revealed the CB1100 Prototype there were two things in particular that from a visual standpoint really had me excited. The gas tank and of course the the header pipes. When they finally released the production version of the CB1100 they did a reasonable job with the shape of the tank, but fell much shorter when it came to the design of the exhaust headers. It is cool to see Honda go on to use that header design on one of their production bikes. It's just such a shame that it wasn't the CB1100. Ah well, such is life.

I didn't see a lot of follow-up talk on the forum about this bike once it finally came out as a [url=https://powersports.honda.com/street/sport/cb650r?year=2019]2019 model and now continues for [url=https://powersports.honda.com/street/standard/cb650r]2020.

I think it's very attractive and by all accounts, is built to a higher standard of quality and fit & finish than its competition.

Stichill, I failed to notice your resurrection of this thread. I too find this motorcycle attractive in it's own right. Had I a need for a new motorcycle the CB650R would certainly be on my list.

With regard to the engine and where it makes it's power, for me it is not so much about how low or how high in the engine's RPM range that power is made, so much as it is about how "happy" or comfortable the engine feels making power where it does. I am guessing that I might like riding the CB650R quite a bit. The only way to know for sure however is by riding one and that is just not in the cards for me. (I sure wouldn't mind living vicariously through other forum members' experiences should they be posted here at some point.)
Interestingly, based on the photos appearing in this thread, the stock production exhaust look by far the most appealing to me.

[Stichill_imp]

I like how the pipes sweep down, not unlike the waterfall pipes of the old 400SS. Not a bad looking bike. That seat doesn’t look too comfortable though.

I think you're probably right about that, KE. The YouTube guy EnglishBukerDan definitely complained about seat comfort in this lovely video about his tour from England to Germany.

I like how the pipes sweep down, not unlike the waterfall pipes of the old 400SS. Not a bad looking bike. That seat doesn’t look too comfortable though.

You and me both KE. Way back when Honda revealed the CB1100 Prototype there were two things in particular that from a visual standpoint really had me excited. The gas tank and of course the the header pipes. When they finally released the production version of the CB1100 they did a reasonable job with the shape of the tank, but fell much shorter when it came to the design of the exhaust headers. It is cool to see Honda go on to use that header design on one of their production bikes. It's just such a shame that it wasn't the CB1100. Ah well, such is life.

I didn't see a lot of follow-up talk on the forum about this bike once it finally came out as a [url=https://powersports.honda.com/street/sport/cb650r?year=2019]2019 model and now continues for [url=https://powersports.honda.com/street/standard/cb650r]2020.

I think it's very attractive and by all accounts, is built to a higher standard of quality and fit & finish than its competition.

Stichill, I failed to notice your resurrection of this thread. I too find this motorcycle attractive in it's own right. Had I a need for a new motorcycle the CB650R would certainly be on my list.

With regard to the engine and where it makes it's power, for me it is not so much about how low or how high in the engine's RPM range that power is made, so much as it is about how "happy" or comfortable the engine feels making power where it does. I am guessing that I might like riding the CB650R quite a bit. The only way to know for sure however is by riding one and that is just not in the cards for me. (I sure wouldn't mind living vicariously through other forum members' experiences should they be posted here at some point.)
Interestingly, based on the photos appearing in this thread, the stock production exhaust look by far the most appealing to me.

Yeah I went and dug it up looking for impressions about CB650R. I have to say, one of the best features of this forum is "View Today's Posts"...that my usual landing page here so I can see the latest activity.

I like how the pipes sweep down, not unlike the waterfall pipes of the old 400SS. Not a bad looking bike. That seat doesn’t look too comfortable though.

You and me both KE. Way back when Honda revealed the CB1100 Prototype there were two things in particular that from a visual standpoint really had me excited. The gas tank and of course the the header pipes. When they finally released the production version of the CB1100 they did a reasonable job with the shape of the tank, but fell much shorter when it came to the design of the exhaust headers. It is cool to see Honda go on to use that header design on one of their production bikes. It's just such a shame that it wasn't the CB1100. Ah well, such is life.

I didn't see a lot of follow-up talk on the forum about this bike once it finally came out as a [url=https://powersports.honda.com/street/sport/cb650r?year=2019]2019 model and now continues for [url=https://powersports.honda.com/street/standard/cb650r]2020.

I think it's very attractive and by all accounts, is built to a higher standard of quality and fit & finish than its competition.

Stichill, I failed to notice your resurrection of this thread. I too find this motorcycle attractive in it's own right. Had I a need for a new motorcycle the CB650R would certainly be on my list.

With regard to the engine and where it makes it's power, for me it is not so much about how low or how high in the engine's RPM range that power is made, so much as it is about how "happy" or comfortable the engine feels making power where it does. I am guessing that I might like riding the CB650R quite a bit. The only way to know for sure however is by riding one and that is just not in the cards for me. (I sure wouldn't mind living vicariously through other forum members' experiences should they be posted here at some point.)
Interestingly, based on the photos appearing in this thread, the stock production exhaust look by far the most appealing to me.

I'm still searching for the Swiss Army knife of bikes and I'm wondering if this might be it. The features I'm looking for in a Swiss Army knife bike are not those that attract many people to ADVs. My list is quite different.

I like how the pipes sweep down, not unlike the waterfall pipes of the old 400SS. Not a bad looking bike. That seat doesn’t look too comfortable though.

You and me both KE. Way back when Honda revealed the CB1100 Prototype there were two things in particular that from a visual standpoint really had me excited. The gas tank and of course the the header pipes. When they finally released the production version of the CB1100 they did a reasonable job with the shape of the tank, but fell much shorter when it came to the design of the exhaust headers. It is cool to see Honda go on to use that header design on one of their production bikes. It's just such a shame that it wasn't the CB1100. Ah well, such is life.

I didn't see a lot of follow-up talk on the forum about this bike once it finally came out as a [url=https://powersports.honda.com/street/sport/cb650r?year=2019]2019 model and now continues for [url=https://powersports.honda.com/street/standard/cb650r]2020.

I think it's very attractive and by all accounts, is built to a higher standard of quality and fit & finish than its competition.

Stichill, I failed to notice your resurrection of this thread. I too find this motorcycle attractive in it's own right. Had I a need for a new motorcycle the CB650R would certainly be on my list.

With regard to the engine and where it makes it's power, for me it is not so much about how low or how high in the engine's RPM range that power is made, so much as it is about how "happy" or comfortable the engine feels making power where it does. I am guessing that I might like riding the CB650R quite a bit. The only way to know for sure however is by riding one and that is just not in the cards for me. (I sure wouldn't mind living vicariously through other forum members' experiences should they be posted here at some point.)
Interestingly, based on the photos appearing in this thread, the stock production exhaust look by far the most appealing to me.

Very true. The only negative thing I've heard about this engine's character is Adam Waheed felt that it had a harmonic vibration around 70 mph that he didn't like.

[Wisedrum]

It's amazing that engine technology has allowed power in a streetable 4 stroke street bike to be developed at 12,000 rpms. My old 73 RD 350, basically a racing 2 stroke, had a redline of 8500 rpms, and a pretty short engine life if kept at those rpms

I like motorbikes that have enough torque right from thebstart to be ridden up to 4.500rpm and feel easy, smooth and fast enough for the way I want to ride. I seldom rev them higher. Sometimes on longer trips but not for acceleration.

In Germany we call motorbikes like the new Honda 650 "Drehorgel". A translation could be rev organ. Bikes like this have never been of any interest to me. It doesn't matter if they last or not.

Wisedrum