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ABS Conversion
#1
Good day all! Just looking for some feedback on if anyone has heard of someone trying to do an ABS conversion for an EX 1100. It is the ONLY thing I do not absolutely love about this bike and would have bought an ABS model if there were any around me. I searched all over, but found nobody talking about this. If there are any posts already about this I apologize in advance. Wondering if it would be a bolt on swap if the right parts could be found. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time riders.
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#2
It will cost a fortune and a ton of work.
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#3
(11-26-2018, 08:01 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: It will cost a fortune and a ton of work.

Very succinct answer, popgun!

Micahgerv, just for a start,compare the wiring diagrams between ABS and non-ABS. The ABS modulator is a 12 wire device, requiring an additional speed sensor on the front wheel...and that is just the basic electrical aspect.

I had ABS on my 2016 Mto Guzzi V7II and never used it for 7,000 miles.
Flushing the MG system is rather complicated.

ABS might have prevented my first M/C crash in 1963 or I might have been decapitated. Does that help you feel better about not having it?!
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#4
My personal short answer is no, you will not be successful with ABS installation...just to start with the co$t, not to mention about complex-technical....and I do not remember if any member ever mentioned about it?
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#5
Much cheaper to look for a ABS model from any year than to convert one.
Bleeding the ABS system on the CB 1100 is very easy , especially if you use vacuum bleeder and air compressor and speed bleeders .
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#6
Just the ABS modulator for a ‘17 is $1400 USD list. Plus the wiring, hoses brackets, tone ring and sensor and all. Plus, maybe a different ECU (don’t really know.

Heck, buy a bike with ABS and be done with it. Cheaper, and you know it will work correctly.
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#7
I have this recollection that someone on this forum explored this option once before, but I can't seem to find it.
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(11-26-2018, 09:06 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: Much cheaper to look for a ABS model from any year than to convert one.
Bleeding the ABS system on the CB 1100 is very easy , especially if you use vacuum bleeder and air compressor and speed bleeders .

I think you mentioned that before. Good to know. Although a valve adjust is super simple and accessible on the V7II, changing the clutch is more than expected on a M/C. Just the nature of the beast.
(11-26-2018, 09:14 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Just the ABS modulator for a ‘17 is $1400 USD list. Plus the wiring, hoses brackets, tone ring and sensor and all. Plus, maybe a different ECU (don’t really know.

Heck, buy a bike with ABS and be done with it. Cheaper, and you know it will work correctly.

Doubt it matters, since that $1,400 plus everything else should scare off 99.9% of us, but the ECM appears to not be involved and both ABS and non-ABS have the same connections (A-1 to A-33 and B-1 to B-33). Modulator is powered from fuse H (not present on non-ABS).

Since I probably came across negative, I thought I would add a positive note!

Popgun, does the service manual have a hydraulic schematic? Don't need it, just curious if available.
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#9
My shop manual shows simple hydraulics for bleeding only:
* lever brake line p. 14-10
* pedal brake line p. 14-13
Not really hydraulic schematic, as we may think of.
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#10
Sportsterdoc, The ‘14 manual does have 2 hydraulic schematics for the ‘13 C-ABS. One shows operation when using the handlebar lever and the other when using the foot pedal. Pages 14-10 and 14-13

Nothing on the ‘13 non-abs or ‘14 abs or non-abs. (Diagrams that is)

I don’t have a ‘17 manual. If Honda doesn’t bring a ‘19 model over I’ll get one. If they do I’ll wait some more.
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