Key Wouldn’t Turn On?

[tod.branko_imp]

I wonder what policy in North American, or lack thereof (which exists in parts of Europe), determined that the "HISS" feature was not a requirement?

No HISS - easier to steal. Thieves have something to do, police has something to do - good for the economy!

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

[j3gq_imp]

J3, in the US, the key is a key. Any blank will do. No magnets, chips, or com devices checking with the NSA Just a key

Given the incredible number of people working for the NSA, no department knowing what “the other hand” is doing, and the amount of money deployed each year ... there can only be simple keys if there is sth else much more efficient to monitor. You brave, tax-paying citizens must be so happy knowing where all your money goes, with H.I.S.S. or many hisses.

[GoldOxide_imp]

I wonder what policy in North American, or lack thereof (which exists in parts of Europe), determined that the "HISS" feature was not a requirement?

No HISS - easier to steal. Thieves have something to do, police has something to do - good for the economy!

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

No HISS - easier to steal. Thieves have something to do, police has something to do - good for the economy!

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed
... you forgot the insurance companies too.

In a way, the logic is not flawed.

[max]

Just something on locks, my front door lock became harder to operate and it's good quality, took the cylinder out ( with the key in it to prevent losing the slides ) and despite lubricating it regularly it was dry in most places.
So i shined up the surfaces of the barrel, applied gearoil liberally and re-instated the lock, it works very smooth now and the extra benefit is the key will wear less because of the lack of friction on the cams, i have no experience with graphite but the lubricant must be in all the working area's of the mechanism and in my case more was better.
Much overlooked these locks, same applies to all my vehicles.

[Mixagon_imp]

Just something on locks, my front door lock became harder to operate and it's good quality, took the cylinder out ( with the key in it to prevent losing the slides ) and despite lubricating it regularly it was dry in most places.
So i shined up the surfaces of the barrel, applied gearoil liberally and re-instated the lock, it works very smooth now and the extra benefit is the key will wear less because of the lack of friction on the cams, i have no experience with graphite but the lubricant must be in all the working area's of the mechanism and in my case more was better.
Much overlooked these locks, same applies to all my vehicles.

I know a lot do but I have always been told never to oil a lock because in time with dust and grime it makes the levers stick so I've always used graphite which I blow in on a piece of V shaped paper and put some on the key as well. If someone has oiled it before the graphite would cause more problems so I only use it on a dry lock.

Re the oil method.. Years ago at a workplace the front outside gate had many keyholders and was used many times daily and was oiled almost on a weekly basis because of the weather and stiffness but still had to be replaced regular due to failure to unlock.
The main complaint about the lock was oil coming out on the key and into peoples pockets/bags etc.
Do you find gear oil comes out on the key ?

[pekingduck]

I wonder what policy in North American, or lack thereof (which exists in parts of Europe), determined that the "HISS" feature was not a requirement?

The additional expense and complexity of H.I.S.S. isn't something American Honda wanted. Not just the initial cost it would add to the bike, but also warranty outlay. It came on the Rune only here, and was real pain for some customers and dealers.

Motorcycle theft in the US is not the same as in the rest of the world. Here we have more vans and pickup trucks, and a surprising amount of completely unlocked bikes ready to be just rolled away. H.I.S.S. wouldn't have helped us.

[max]

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Re the oil method.. Years ago at a workplace the front outside gate had many keyholders and was used many times daily and was oiled almost on a weekly basis because of the weather and stiffness but still had to be replaced regular due to failure to unlock.
The main complaint about the lock was oil coming out on the key and into peoples pockets/bags etc.
Do you find gear oil comes out on the key ?
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Mixagon thanks for your reply, i appreciate it when i get the opportunity to learn something new.
Guess it depends on the situation and i have heard of the graphite method, just never got to use it.

In the case of my lock i lubricated all moving parts when the lock barrel was out of the housing, i have not experienced any appreciable oil on the key, i think the oil is still clinging to the internal bits without the tendency to leak onto the key.

The vehicle locks are lubricated with a spray can through a straw to get at the back of the action, the diluted lube spreads out, the dilution evaporates and just enough stays in the lock until the next application, no bad experiences sofar.

All i can do is convey what i have experienced to the best recollection but there are usually better ways out there and it's a good thing to have someone else's experience to put into the mix, cheers.

[GoldOxide_imp]

Re the oil method.. Years ago at a workplace the front outside gate had many keyholders and was used many times daily and was oiled almost on a weekly basis because of the weather and stiffness but still had to be replaced regular due to failure to unlock.
The main complaint about the lock was oil coming out on the key and into peoples pockets/bags etc.
Do you find gear oil comes out on the key ?
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Mixagon thanks for your reply, i appreciate it when i get the opportunity to learn something new.
Guess it depends on the situation and i have heard of the graphite method, just never got to use it.

In the case of my lock i lubricated all moving parts when the lock barrel was out of the housing, i have not experienced any appreciable oil on the key, i think the oil is still clinging to the internal bits without the tendency to leak onto the key.

The vehicle locks are lubricated with a spray can through a straw to get at the back of the action, the diluted lube spreads out, the dilution evaporates and just enough stays in the lock until the next application, no bad experiences sofar.

All i can do is convey what i have experienced to the best recollection but there are usually better ways out there and it's a good thing to have someone else's experience to put into the mix, cheers.
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Sounds good to me.

In most parts of Canada during winter, locks need this approach to lubrication, otherwise it will just ice and freeze up solid. That's when the flame-thrower comes out.