(07-06-2018, 06:41 AM)silverbub_imp Wrote: 3/4 quart of oil consumed in ~3K miles after 600 mi break-in service...did the MST finally get rings sealed???...I like Honda(or any bike) to not consume oil after break-in...I like seeing oil at FULL line on sightglass...& checking sightglass mostly out of habit & not of necessity...BUT...if I found a spare 32K $ in a shoebox in closet...

(07-06-2018, 07:01 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Yea, that's a lot of oil consumption. My ST only used a couple ounces of oil in 4,000 miles when it had 100,000 miles on it.

(07-06-2018, 10:23 AM)apex1_imp Wrote: I test rode one last year when the test ride fleet came to a local dealer which just picked them up. It was a pretty long test ride. I was unimpressed. It felt like a kit bike. A collection of top shelf parts bolted together around a loud, hot, unrefined motor with automotive peripherals. The lack of resources to manufacture their own fully-integrated components and to refine and integrate them is very evident. It is hard for me to believe that a Motus could ever put down the type of power that a modern liquid cooled high tech motorcycle engine can make.

(07-07-2018, 01:24 AM)Roper_imp Wrote:

(07-06-2018, 10:23 AM)apex1_imp Wrote: I test rode one last year when the test ride fleet came to a local dealer which just picked them up. It was a pretty long test ride. I was unimpressed. It felt like a kit bike. A collection of top shelf parts bolted together around a loud, hot, unrefined motor with automotive peripherals. The lack of resources to manufacture their own fully-integrated components and to refine and integrate them is very evident. It is hard for me to believe that a Motus could ever put down the type of power that a modern liquid cooled high tech motorcycle engine can make.

The top shelf parts are the ones many cyclists use to replace the OEM stuff on their bikes, anyway--Ohlins suspension, Brembo brakes, braided lines, OZ wheels, Akrapovic exhaust. And their loud, hot, unrefined motor: 165 hp and 135 ft lb torque from a 2-valve-per-cylinder pushrod motor. And all of that on their base model. You say unrefined. I say bravo.

Yes, Motus can't compete with global corporations who have been making motorcycles for over 50 years. But you cannot deny they have produced pretty spectacular results for a first effort. I get that not everyone is going to be impressed. I think that's a result of personal preference, not a result of Motus' design. Some people would rather drive a Z-car. Some people would rather drive a Camaro.

(07-07-2018, 03:21 AM)apex1_imp Wrote:

(07-07-2018, 01:24 AM)Roper_imp Wrote:

(07-06-2018, 10:23 AM)apex1_imp Wrote: I test rode one last year when the test ride fleet came to a local dealer which just picked them up. It was a pretty long test ride. I was unimpressed. It felt like a kit bike. A collection of top shelf parts bolted together around a loud, hot, unrefined motor with automotive peripherals. The lack of resources to manufacture their own fully-integrated components and to refine and integrate them is very evident. It is hard for me to believe that a Motus could ever put down the type of power that a modern liquid cooled high tech motorcycle engine can make.

The top shelf parts are the ones many cyclists use to replace the OEM stuff on their bikes, anyway--Ohlins suspension, Brembo brakes, braided lines, OZ wheels, Akrapovic exhaust. And their loud, hot, unrefined motor: 165 hp and 135 ft lb torque from a 2-valve-per-cylinder pushrod motor. And all of that on their base model. You say unrefined. I say bravo.

Yes, Motus can't compete with global corporations who have been making motorcycles for over 50 years. But you cannot deny they have produced pretty spectacular results for a first effort. I get that not everyone is going to be impressed. I think that's a result of personal preference, not a result of Motus' design. Some people would rather drive a Z-car. Some people would rather drive a Camaro.

The top shelf parts are the ones many cyclists use to replace the OEM stuff on their bikes, anyway--Ohlins suspension, Brembo brakes, braided lines, OZ wheels, Akrapovic exhaust. And their loud, hot, unrefined motor: 165 hp and 135 ft lb torque from a 2-valve-per-cylinder pushrod motor. And all of that on their base model. You say unrefined. I say bravo.

Yes, Motus can't compete with global corporations who have been making motorcycles for over 50 years. But you cannot deny they have produced pretty spectacular results for a first effort. I get that not everyone is going to be impressed. I think that's a result of personal preference, not a result of Motus' design. Some people would rather drive a Z-car. Some people would rather drive a Camaro.
All of what you say is true and I wish them nothing but success. Having spent some time on one, however, they are not for me, even putting price aside.