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RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - Lord Popgun - 08-20-2021
Please don’t lose that key to the wine cellar
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - GoldOxide_imp - 08-20-2021
(08-20-2021, 08:04 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Please don’t lose that key to the wine cellar
( ... there is always a spare lurking somewhere, he just doesn't know it ... )
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - j3gq_imp - 08-21-2021
(08-20-2021, 07:51 AM)sourdough44_imp Wrote: Just an update, my ‘spare’/ other key has been fine, haven’t gone back to trying the original key.
Yes, this was inserted all the way, steering already unlocked, don’t use the steering lock anyway.
It took about 5 minutes, twice, to get the key to turn, so yes, it was in fully. During those 5 minutes I tried everything I could, including the forks centered, key all the way in, etc.
I don’t think my bike or where my key has been is enough to wear the key out. I guess as keys get more detailed, anything is possible. I’ve had 4 times older vehicles where the original keys were fine.
Right now I’m gonna leave it in the freaky event category & use my other key.
sourdough44
I would certainly try graphite, it cannot hurt and is better than any oil.
Next give both keys a very careful look, side-by-side, in good light with a magnifier. If you don't see any difference - and my guess is you won't - then the key may still the problem.
Talk to your Honda dealer in order to find out whether there is more to the CB keys than just the visible shape. Some automotive keys have magnetic inserts (and other stuff) as additional theft protection. I don't see any such thing on my key, but it's not impossible. In this case one key could work, and the won't.
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - Lord Popgun - 08-21-2021
In the US we do not get the H.I.S.S so no chips in our keys. Not sure about Canada.
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - j3gq_imp - 08-21-2021
You are certainly right, but H.I.S.S. or not, could it be that the key has a magnetic component (sensed by the lock, as a protection against unauthorized copying). If the field is too weak sourdough would see exactly the intermittent problems he described. As I said, a shot in the dark, but I had a car key like this many years ago.
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - GoldOxide_imp - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 03:21 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: In the US we do not get the H.I.S.S so no chips in our keys. Not sure about Canada.
10-4 LPG. Not applicable in Canada.
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - peterbaron - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 03:31 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:(08-21-2021, 03:21 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: In the US we do not get the H.I.S.S so no chips in our keys. Not sure about Canada.
10-4 LPG. Not applicable in Canada.
10-4 LPG. Not applicable in Canada.
The 2016 did not have either/Canada
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - Cormanus - 08-21-2021
(08-17-2021, 02:54 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: Just an open question to all about your keys. Do you have a bunch of keys on a keyring, or just one or two? I've known of car ignition switches what wore out from dangling a heavy set of keys.
pekingduck, apologies for helping to derail attempts to garner serious answers to your question. The key ring for my bike key also holds the key to my top box and a fob. I know I shouldn’t have the other things on there, but I used to find I left the top box key in the box if I didn’t have to remove it to start the bike.
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - Lord Popgun - 08-21-2021
J3, in the US, the key is a key. Any blank will do. No magnets, chips, or com devices checking with the NSA
Just a key
RE: Key Wouldn’t Turn On? - GoldOxide_imp - 08-21-2021
I wonder what policy in North American, or lack thereof (which exists in parts of Europe), determined that the "HISS" feature was not a requirement?