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RE: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars - kmoney_imp - 09-19-2015

(09-19-2015, 01:14 AM)furious_blue_imp Wrote: I used sliders on 2 bikes: Speed Triple and CBR250R.
Both were 'tested' in 0 mph tip over incidents and they did a good job keeping things from damage.

I was going to get sliders for the ZX-14, but then I read about a bike that was 'totalled' in a low speed slide because a frame slider bent/broke the frame that it was mounted on.
Because of that, the ZX-14 gets no sliders (and of course there are no crash bars)..
Replacing bodywork is cheaper than a ruined frame (which should NOT be 'straightened' or rewelded IMHO).

For the CB1100 I chose the Honda crashbars.
Some have preferred a bar with more bracing to make the crashbar more rigid, but I tend to regard the crashbar as being like the expanded poly in a helmet: it is MEANT to be crushed in order to save the head.. So I prefer a 'weaker' crashbar that will deform on impacts and thus absorb the shock, rather than a braced crashbar that might transmit more of the shock to the motorcycle..
It doesn't hurt that they look really nice too :-)
This happened to my R1 with frame sliders. They bolted to the engine and subsequently cracked the block when the bike went down on the left side and tore the bolt right out.

On our CB's though, I don't think you can really go wrong as they have dedicated mounts for these on the frame and it's steel not aluminum. I've always like the metal crash bars, cause they seem to fit the bike more (I think the plastic pucks look too modern sportbike) but I don't think either is better from a protection standpoint.

RE: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars - flynrider - 09-19-2015

I wish someone made an old style crash bar for the CB11.

[Image: f336b2fb6f8e01b8df6dadad1de4b456.JPG]

I think it would give the bike that authentic UJM look. Unfortunately, the only ones I've found were for Harleys.

RE: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars - Bheezy27403_imp - 09-20-2015

(09-19-2015, 12:17 AM)ClassicVW_imp Wrote:
(09-18-2015, 11:09 AM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote: Well I'm guessing the bars must be at least 5 lbs?

I took the case savers off my '80 CM400t a million years ago but I seem to remember them being rather heavy. Those pucks can't weigh that much.

Even so, how will 5 lbs. matter in the overall scheme of things?

Even so, how will 5 lbs. matter in the overall scheme of things?
Every ounce counts in performance and handling. Not to mention fuel economy.

RE: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars - furious_blue_imp - 09-20-2015

(09-19-2015, 04:13 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I wish someone made an old style crash bar for the CB11.

[Image: f336b2fb6f8e01b8df6dadad1de4b456.JPG]

I think it would give the bike that authentic UJM look. Unfortunately, the only ones I've found were for Harleys.

Man, doesn't that take me back.. I'd forgotten about those !

RE: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars - ClassicVW_imp - 09-20-2015

(09-20-2015, 12:14 AM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote:
(09-19-2015, 12:17 AM)ClassicVW_imp Wrote:
(09-18-2015, 11:09 AM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote: Well I'm guessing the bars must be at least 5 lbs?

I took the case savers off my '80 CM400t a million years ago but I seem to remember them being rather heavy. Those pucks can't weigh that much.

Even so, how will 5 lbs. matter in the overall scheme of things?

Even so, how will 5 lbs. matter in the overall scheme of things?
Every ounce counts in performance and handling. Not to mention fuel economy.

Even so, how will 5 lbs. matter in the overall scheme of things?
Every ounce counts in performance and handling. Not to mention fuel economy.
Maybe on the race track, but not for this detuned machine.

RE: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars - MikeD_imp - 09-21-2015

Thanks for all of the input. A few other forums have also had this question come up. It was good to have so many experienced riders chime in. SW MOTEC makes a set of crash bars that I may try. The black ones look like they will blend in pretty well. I'm not too concerned about the extra weight. It seems like a fair trade for protection that is offered.

RE: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars - veech_imp - 09-21-2015

(09-19-2015, 04:13 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I wish someone made an old style crash bar for the CB11.

[Image: f336b2fb6f8e01b8df6dadad1de4b456.JPG]

I think it would give the bike that authentic UJM look. Unfortunately, the only ones I've found were for Harleys.

The closest I know of is this:

http://japan.webike.net/products/20522721.html

RE: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars - flynrider - 09-21-2015

(09-21-2015, 01:00 AM)veech_imp Wrote:
(09-19-2015, 04:13 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I wish someone made an old style crash bar for the CB11.

[Image: f336b2fb6f8e01b8df6dadad1de4b456.JPG]

I think it would give the bike that authentic UJM look. Unfortunately, the only ones I've found were for Harleys.

The closest I know of is this:

http://japan.webike.net/products/20522721.html

I've seen those. Not quite the same look. I've got one left over from a KZ750 in my garage, but it looks like it would take a lot of garage engineering to make it fit. Oil cooler clearance is the big issue.