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RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - Obleo - 08-02-2021
On my 2020 Triumph Speedmaster the manual instructions tell you to turn the key off first for some reason . So that’s what I do . On the CB I always use the kill switch , and never experienced an issue. I agree with the others ,inspect the switch,clean with some contact cleaner , apply some dielectric grease .
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - the Ferret - 08-02-2021
(08-02-2021, 09:40 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:(08-02-2021, 02:05 PM)tod.branko_imp Wrote: Does sound like the kill-switch issue, I've notice people have had to mitigate those occasionally on the CB. Personally never had that problem, but I can see how it can be unnerving.
And I agree - they are probably redundant - and there are most likely better ways to switch the bike off, but for whatever reason they stuck, and are likely to remain.
Recently I was coming home from a long ride, going about 90 on a highway I was passing through a windy portion of the road and wanted to get into a bit more of a tuck, as I went down I noticed that my right bar-end mirror was pointing at the sky so as I reached over with my left hand to adjust it I accidentally hit the kill switch and the bike went dead, it took a split second to understand what's going on (it felt like a year, the feeling of getting cut at the waist and losing my ground sort of like when an airplane suddenly drops, pins and needles, cold sweat and chills), figured it out, knocked it back into ON and bike just bumpstarted itself and kept going like nothing ever happened, nonetheless - I blame the kill-switch lol
'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed
Yeah, the kill switch is there for accident safety, and not just for the rider, but for anyone rushing to help the fallen.
I have hit the kill switch too while riding and just flipped it back on to bump start the bike in-flight. Not very exciting and a dull inconvenience.
Maybe a future evolution will be to reliably utilize the IMU to signal a downed rider and kill the engine. I believe this is being done now by some manufacturers, but is not standardized.
and I believe that's what it says in your owner's manual, for emergency use only
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - pdedse - 08-03-2021
(08-02-2021, 09:40 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:(08-02-2021, 02:05 PM)tod.branko_imp Wrote: Does sound like the kill-switch issue, I've notice people have had to mitigate those occasionally on the CB. Personally never had that problem, but I can see how it can be unnerving.
And I agree - they are probably redundant - and there are most likely better ways to switch the bike off, but for whatever reason they stuck, and are likely to remain.
Recently I was coming home from a long ride, going about 90 on a highway I was passing through a windy portion of the road and wanted to get into a bit more of a tuck, as I went down I noticed that my right bar-end mirror was pointing at the sky so as I reached over with my left hand to adjust it I accidentally hit the kill switch and the bike went dead, it took a split second to understand what's going on (it felt like a year, the feeling of getting cut at the waist and losing my ground sort of like when an airplane suddenly drops, pins and needles, cold sweat and chills), figured it out, knocked it back into ON and bike just bumpstarted itself and kept going like nothing ever happened, nonetheless - I blame the kill-switch lol
'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed
Yeah, the kill switch is there for accident safety, and not just for the rider, but for anyone rushing to help the fallen.
I have hit the kill switch too while riding and just flipped it back on to bump start the bike in-flight. Not very exciting and a dull inconvenience.
Maybe a future evolution will be to reliably utilize the IMU to signal a downed rider and kill the engine. I believe this is being done now by some manufacturers, but is not standardized.
My '04 Sportster had what HD calls a "Bank Angle Sensor" which causes the engine to cut-out if the bike leans over more than--I think--55 degrees. I guess I tested it once when I went down...I remember picking up the bike, and I don't recall having to use the kill switch / key to turn it off, so maybe the BAS worked.
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - Lord Popgun - 08-03-2021
Your CB1100 also has what Honda calls a Bank Angle Sensor
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - GoldOxide_imp - 08-03-2021
(08-03-2021, 01:45 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Your CB1100 also has what Honda calls a Bank Angle Sensor
Would that be linked to the engine shutoff logic too?
I reckon for the CB1100 Honda doesn't use the sensor for ABS while turning like the 202x Africa Twins. That typically involves a 6D IMU sensor device, but I wouldn't assume exclusively.
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - calipo223_imp - 08-03-2021
Thanks everyone, will take the advice given and hopefully it will work as it should. Thanks again
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - Gone in 60 - 08-03-2021
Good luck! Should be an easy job to separate the switch housing and clean everything up inside. Just be careful for springs and little bits that might fall out when you do. Don't ask me how I know...
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - Lord Popgun - 08-03-2021
Gold, I think it at least kills the fuel pump. I don't recall exactly at the moment and will have to check a wiring diagram.
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - Gone in 60 - 08-03-2021
All of this reminds me that I need to dig the passenger door window switch out of my car and clean it. Every time my wife rides in the car and says "I can't roll the window down", I have to reply "Just keep jiggling it honey, it will start working again in a minute."
RE: Trouble starting my CB when I when I use the on/ off button to shut of My CB. I - alprider - 08-03-2021
i use the kill switch since i had one in my bikes min. for 50%