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RE: Valve clearance price - the Ferret - 02-25-2024

across the table is too close


RE: Valve clearance price - Cormanus - 02-25-2024

ROFL


RE: Valve clearance price - noroomtomove - 02-25-2024

G'day Mature Cheese

The "Observed Valve Clearance" started by Pterodactyl many years ago, it is a table of actual check results by members of the forum at various distance ridden points and the results found.
Based on that I made the decision to not do the check at the interval recommended.
My chain and sprockets are near to change out but not there yet at 60.000km.
I change the oil at 6.000km as per Hondas guidance for my year model, I understand it is now 12.000km stand to be corrected.
I have a recollection of a bike having 160.000km on the clock with one adjustment (still in spec) in that time but all other checks in Spec.
I hope that on reflection you might retain your CB1100.

Regards from Downunder
Noroomtomove

PS 'Blessed are the cheese makers"


RE: Valve clearance price - Whoops - 02-25-2024

(02-25-2024, 01:58 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: It's not so much the inspection which is fairly straight forward, it's the adjustment which is difficult should any valve be out of spec. For one just the valve cover has to come off, for the other the cams have to come out and different size shims inserted to bring it back into spec using special tools.Also on I-4s there is not a lot of space under the back bone frame to work.

Then again, some people have natural mechanical aptitude and are handy at things like that, while others are not. My younger brother has always had a knack with mechanical things and can work on and fix anything, but he can barely draw stick figures and can't properly diagram a sentence. I'm terrible with tools, but am a fairly talented artist and have co-written a book, been published in 7 national and International magazines and was an associate editor for a magazine for a couple of decades (although it was mostly a figure head title as I didn't have to do any actual editing lol).

He had dark hair, dark eyes and is left-handed, I had blond hair, blue eyes and am right-handed (both gray now). We are completely different, but we both love riding motorcycles, and worked in the same motorcycle shop for years. He as a mechanic, and me as a parts/service manager. Different skill sets put to different uses on the same product.

It sounds like you and your brother are the Click and Clack of motorcycles. Thumbs Up


RE: Valve clearance price - pdedse - 02-25-2024

(02-25-2024, 11:43 AM)noroomtomove_imp Wrote: G'day Mature Cheese

The "Observed Valve Clearance" started by Pterodactyl many years ago, it is a table of actual check results by members of the forum at various distance ridden points and the results found.
Based on that I made the decision to not do the check at the interval recommended.
My chain and sprockets are near to change out but not there yet at 60.000km.
I change the oil at 6.000km as per Hondas guidance for my year model, I understand it is now 12.000km stand to be corrected.
I have a recollection of a bike having 160.000km on the clock with one adjustment (still in spec) in that time but all other checks in Spec.
I hope that on reflection you might retain your CB1100.

Regards from Downunder
Noroomtomove

PS 'Blessed are the cheese makers"

"...for they shall inherit the earth"


RE: Valve clearance price - Cormanus - 02-25-2024

Well, that's better than any number of other options I can think of pdedse!


RE: Valve clearance price - pdedse - 02-26-2024

(02-26-2024, 01:38 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: to check, its easy. write down the results, and if they need shimming, then pay somebody to do it. But pulling the valve cover isn't hard. that reduces a bunch of the labor costs.

Not a bad idea particularly given that most seem not to need actual adjusting whether at 1?,000 miles or however many.


RE: Valve clearance price - The Gecko_imp - 02-26-2024

(02-25-2024, 01:58 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: It's not so much the inspection which is fairly straight forward, it's the adjustment which is difficult should any valve be out of spec. For one just the valve cover has to come off, for the other the cams have to come out and different size shims inserted to bring it back into spec using special tools.Also on I-4s there is not a lot of space under the back bone frame to work.

Then again, some people have natural mechanical aptitude and are handy at things like that, while others are not. My younger brother has always had a knack with mechanical things and can work on and fix anything, but he can barely draw stick figures and can't properly diagram a sentence. I'm terrible with tools, but am a fairly talented artist and have co-written a book, been published in 7 national and International magazines and was an associate editor for a magazine for a couple of decades (although it was mostly a figure head title as I didn't have to do any actual editing lol).

He had dark hair, dark eyes and is left-handed, I had blond hair, blue eyes and am right-handed (both gray now). We are completely different, but we both love riding motorcycles, and worked in the same motorcycle shop for years. He as a mechanic, and me as a parts/service manager. Different skill sets put to different uses on the same product.

The explanation of all this - in terms of genome - is more than obvious.
No bashing please Wink


RE: Valve clearance price - Gone in 60 - 02-27-2024

(02-25-2024, 11:43 AM)noroomtomove_imp Wrote: G'day Mature Cheese

The "Observed Valve Clearance" started by Pterodactyl many years ago, it is a table of actual check results by members of the forum at various distance ridden points and the results found.
Based on that I made the decision to not do the check at the interval recommended.
My chain and sprockets are near to change out but not there yet at 60.000km.
I change the oil at 6.000km as per Hondas guidance for my year model, I understand it is now 12.000km stand to be corrected.
I have a recollection of a bike having 160.000km on the clock with one adjustment (still in spec) in that time but all other checks in Spec.
I hope that on reflection you might retain your CB1100.

Regards from Downunder
Noroomtomove

PS 'Blessed are the cheese makers"

Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

All this talk about how much it costs to check the valves on a CB1100, and all of the comments about how they've been checked and guess what, they were all in spec...

My history of Honda ownership has shown that after digging down however far, they've been in spec (well, except that Nighthawk 750, no checking there).
I will maintain my stance of "It's a Honda, I'm sure it's fine" for my CB1100.

Not so much, of course with the Interceptor 650, which requires, not suggests, requires a check every 6,000 miles, and for good reason. It has been reported that if you don't maintain the schedule on this bike, Vishnu, the God of Preservation will come down from the heavens, do the work for you, all the while making a big deal about how lazy you are, annoying your neighbors. Thankfully, they made this task laughably easy with a simple-to-remove tank and screw adjusters rather than shims.


RE: Valve clearance price - Yata-Garasu_imp - 02-27-2024

(02-27-2024, 04:43 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: piece of advice no one asked for, but its useful. Valves will tighten up , not loosen up on these bikes as miles go on (typically unless theres a mechnical failure). an early indicator of this is loss of compression on one (or more) cylinder. a down and dirty check is a warm engine compression check on all 4 cyls. if one is lower than the others beyond the allowable range, (20-30 psi i would guess) good bet that cyl needs a valve/shim adjustment. (if all else is ok). .02
Good info. Thanks for sharing.