(07-18-2018, 11:48 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 01:45 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Just found this excellent thread. Great work PowerDubs!

My personal preference for custom grind, would be to smooth out the vibration and add more midrange torque. Then tune out the low rpm throttle twitch and adjust for 12.5-13 afr. Factory airbox and header because I want it quiet.

For anything else, it's cheaper to just buy another motorcycle.

My guess is the exhaust cam will work in the intake cam position.

(07-18-2018, 01:45 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Just found this excellent thread. Great work PowerDubs!

My personal preference for custom grind, would be to smooth out the vibration and add more midrange torque. Then tune out the low rpm throttle twitch and adjust for 12.5-13 afr. Factory airbox and header because I want it quiet.

For anything else, it's cheaper to just buy another motorcycle.

Once I see what I can get out of the bike, most likely I will also put a airbox snorkel back on and the stock header. I will need to switch the O2 bung on the stock car to fit the WBO2 sensor.

(07-18-2018, 01:45 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Just found this excellent thread. Great work PowerDubs!

My personal preference for custom grind, would be to smooth out the vibration and add more midrange torque. Then tune out the low rpm throttle twitch and adjust for 12.5-13 afr. Factory airbox and header because I want it quiet.

For anything else, it's cheaper to just buy another motorcycle.

Everyone keeps saying that, but there is no other motorcycle that ticks all the
boxes the CB does.







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(07-18-2018, 12:06 PM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Eeeh, everyone keeps saying that for a reason. The thing is, CB is a very Jack-of-all-trades kind of bike, it's docile and mediocre all around. Which serves as an excellent blank canvas for whatever extreme you want to achieve. But once you start pushing it towards a specialized purpose, you quickly overextend all the other aspects of this bike. I'm not saying "don't do it", in fact, I love what you do and wish you to succeed. Some people go hog wild on suspension and handling, some turn it into a cross country tourer and someone even made a dog-friendly sidecar! But there are other bikes that built and sold with those goals in mind, and will out-race, out-tour, out-handle and out-sidecar-dog CB right out of the box. This is why most of us don't go to the extremes and enjoy our smooth-running, soft-suspension toys for what they are.

I bought a Ninja 600 for less than what it cost to get +20hp from a CB. It scratches my "go fast" itch. I'm buying a 1150RT with full luggage setup for less what it would take to similar outfit my CB1100 for touring. It makes sense to me. Other than not having space in the garage, I see no downsides!

(07-19-2018, 02:13 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: SportsterDoc, the power numbers are pretty mediocre for a $12,000 and 540 lbs motorcycle. This is Concourse, Bonneville and Super Tenere money. The new Triumph lineup, for example, creams the CB in every category and they drown in aftermarket options.

I'm not here to put CB down, but there is plenty of rabid favoritism on model-specific forum and it's best to take a step back and see pros and cons from a neutral perspective. The best way to do that is to ride as many different bikes as possible. Sign up for demo events and try to swap bikes with friends and family. I don't claim to be an expert, but we have swapped bikes within my rider group on the same trip, and then compared feedback.

How did the tires look at 10k miles? My rear was getting pretty flat at 6k miles and considering how crappy it was in the rain in general, I replaced it right there and then. What are your new tires?

(07-19-2018, 02:13 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: SportsterDoc, the power numbers are pretty mediocre for a $12,000 and 540 lbs motorcycle. This is Concourse, Bonneville and Super Tenere money. The new Triumph lineup, for example, creams the CB in every category and they drown in aftermarket options.

I'm not here to put CB down, but there is plenty of rabid favoritism on model-specific forum and it's best to take a step back and see pros and cons from a neutral perspective. The best way to do that is to ride as many different bikes as possible. Sign up for demo events and try to swap bikes with friends and family. I don't claim to be an expert, but we have swapped bikes within my rider group on the same trip, and then compared feedback.

How did the tires look at 10k miles? My rear was getting pretty flat at 6k miles and considering how crappy it was in the rain in general, I replaced it right there and then. What are your new tires?

(07-19-2018, 02:13 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: SportsterDoc, the power numbers are pretty mediocre for a $12,000 and 540 lbs motorcycle. This is Concourse, Bonneville and Super Tenere money. The new Triumph lineup, for example, creams the CB in every category and they drown in aftermarket options.

I'm not here to put CB down, but there is plenty of rabid favoritism on model-specific forum and it's best to take a step back and see pros and cons from a neutral perspective. The best way to do that is to ride as many different bikes as possible. Sign up for demo events and try to swap bikes with friends and family. I don't claim to be an expert, but we have swapped bikes within my rider group on the same trip, and then compared feedback.

How did the tires look at 10k miles? My rear was getting pretty flat at 6k miles and considering how crappy it was in the rain in general, I replaced it right there and then. What are your new tires?

(07-18-2018, 02:27 PM)SportsterDoc_imp Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 11:48 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 01:45 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Just found this excellent thread. Great work PowerDubs!

My personal preference for custom grind, would be to smooth out the vibration and add more midrange torque. Then tune out the low rpm throttle twitch and adjust for 12.5-13 afr. Factory airbox and header because I want it quiet.

For anything else, it's cheaper to just buy another motorcycle.

My guess is the exhaust cam will work in the intake cam position.

(07-18-2018, 01:45 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Just found this excellent thread. Great work PowerDubs!

My personal preference for custom grind, would be to smooth out the vibration and add more midrange torque. Then tune out the low rpm throttle twitch and adjust for 12.5-13 afr. Factory airbox and header because I want it quiet.

For anything else, it's cheaper to just buy another motorcycle.

Once I see what I can get out of the bike, most likely I will also put a airbox snorkel back on and the stock header. I will need to switch the O2 bung on the stock car to fit the WBO2 sensor.

(07-18-2018, 01:45 AM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Just found this excellent thread. Great work PowerDubs!

My personal preference for custom grind, would be to smooth out the vibration and add more midrange torque. Then tune out the low rpm throttle twitch and adjust for 12.5-13 afr. Factory airbox and header because I want it quiet.

For anything else, it's cheaper to just buy another motorcycle.

Everyone keeps saying that, but there is no other motorcycle that ticks all the
boxes the CB does.







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That is a very good summary.

(07-18-2018, 12:06 PM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Eeeh, everyone keeps saying that for a reason. The thing is, CB is a very Jack-of-all-trades kind of bike, it's docile and mediocre all around. Which serves as an excellent blank canvas for whatever extreme you want to achieve. But once you start pushing it towards a specialized purpose, you quickly overextend all the other aspects of this bike. I'm not saying "don't do it", in fact, I love what you do and wish you to succeed. Some people go hog wild on suspension and handling, some turn it into a cross country tourer and someone even made a dog-friendly sidecar! But there are other bikes that built and sold with those goals in mind, and will out-race, out-tour, out-handle and out-sidecar-dog CB right out of the box. This is why most of us don't go to the extremes and enjoy our smooth-running, soft-suspension toys for what they are.

I bought a Ninja 600 for less than what it cost to get +20hp from a CB. It scratches my "go fast" itch. I'm buying a 1150RT with full luggage setup for less what it would take to similar outfit my CB1100 for touring. It makes sense to me. Other than not having space in the garage, I see no downsides!

A generally well written post, but cannot agree with docile and mediocre.

Most of my riding is long distance, which probably has a lot to do with why the original tires have lasted over 10,400 miles in the past 8 months. Also, I usually wait until second gear to go WOT.

Having ordered tire replacements, I have been riding for a couple days without concern for tire wear. Yesterday, I feathered the clutch in first and fishtailed beginning ~4K RPMs. Today, I let the clutch fully engage and got on it. The rear broke loose at ~4K RPMs...and it still has ample tread.

I would not describe that as docile, nor mediocre.

It is NOT a crotch rocket, but these are stock performance numbers:

86 HP @ 7500 RPM
65.6 ft lbs @ 5700 RPM
0-30 1.2 seconds
0-60 3.3 seconds
0-90 6.8 seconds
0-100 8.6 seconds
1/4 mile 12.11 seconds @ 109.25

It will do ~65 in first, ~85 in second and ~105 in third.

(07-18-2018, 12:06 PM)LikeAfox_imp Wrote: Eeeh, everyone keeps saying that for a reason. The thing is, CB is a very Jack-of-all-trades kind of bike, it's docile and mediocre all around. Which serves as an excellent blank canvas for whatever extreme you want to achieve. But once you start pushing it towards a specialized purpose, you quickly overextend all the other aspects of this bike. I'm not saying "don't do it", in fact, I love what you do and wish you to succeed. Some people go hog wild on suspension and handling, some turn it into a cross country tourer and someone even made a dog-friendly sidecar! But there are other bikes that built and sold with those goals in mind, and will out-race, out-tour, out-handle and out-sidecar-dog CB right out of the box. This is why most of us don't go to the extremes and enjoy our smooth-running, soft-suspension toys for what they are.

I bought a Ninja 600 for less than what it cost to get +20hp from a CB. It scratches my "go fast" itch. I'm buying a 1150RT with full luggage setup for less what it would take to similar outfit my CB1100 for touring. It makes sense to me. Other than not having space in the garage, I see no downsides!

(07-19-2018, 05:05 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: Seriously? I spent 15 years in San Diego and the freeways then were gridlocked. The acceleration of a skateboard would have been more than adequate to merge into traffic.