(08-19-2021, 01:26 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: "Millions of Harley owners can't be wrong. "

Must
bite
my
tongue.

(08-19-2021, 09:19 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Chains are better and supposedly Regina is coming out with a zero maintenance chain for BMW.

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/products/bmw-m-endurance-chain/

if the claims prove true on this, it truly would be a game changer. Zero maintenance, no external lubrication, no adjustment needed.

I have my doubts

(08-19-2021, 05:21 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: Cycleworld has an updated article https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/2022-honda-nt1100-ss-model-confirmed/ that puts the DCT version wet weight at 547 pounds/248 kg (wet). That is no mid weight machine. Will Honda price competitively like the 1100 Rebel to compete with the big selling Yamaha 9GT or go way upmarket like they have with the Africa Twin? The non DCT is 524pounds/237kkg which is more reasonably but watch them shoot themselves in the foot by not offering a quick-shifter to push the DCT sales instead. You will know they have really lost the plot if they don't put cruise control on it, a mistake they couldn't possibly make today surely?

(08-19-2021, 05:33 PM)tod.branko_imp Wrote:

(08-19-2021, 09:19 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Chains are better and supposedly Regina is coming out with a zero maintenance chain for BMW.

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/products/bmw-m-endurance-chain/

if the claims prove true on this, it truly would be a game changer. Zero maintenance, no external lubrication, no adjustment needed.

I have my doubts

Ari Henning did a torture test on this chain, apparently it would last about 5000km with no maintenance, BMW since changed the wording of the marketing pitch to 'low maintenance' and 'for specific models'
It's a gimmick

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

(08-19-2021, 05:21 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: Cycleworld has an updated article https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/2022-honda-nt1100-ss-model-confirmed/ that puts the DCT version wet weight at 547 pounds/248 kg (wet). That is no mid weight machine. Will Honda price competitively like the 1100 Rebel to compete with the big selling Yamaha 9GT or go way upmarket like they have with the Africa Twin? The non DCT is 524pounds/237kkg which is more reasonably but watch them shoot themselves in the foot by not offering a quick-shifter to push the DCT sales instead. You will know they have really lost the plot if they don't put cruise control on it, a mistake they couldn't possibly make today surely?

No cruise control on today's bikes is a sacrilege. It's literally one button and a little bit of code. If Rebel comes with cruise so will the NT I suspect.

I've been wrong before tho

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

(08-19-2021, 11:44 AM)Frulk_imp Wrote: I lean towards chains. My Guzzi has a shaft and has been in the shop twice for rear drive leaks with 7700 miles on the odometer. In order to change the rear tire you literally have to pull the back end of the bike apart. Try doing that on gravel or hot tarmac on the side of the road in 90+ degrees. CB is significantly more user friendly in regards to circumstances like that. Replacing chain and sprockets is something I could do in a pinch. Working in the internals of a shaft drive is well beyond my capabilities.

Chain for the win.

(08-19-2021, 10:23 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote:

(08-19-2021, 11:44 AM)Frulk_imp Wrote: I lean towards chains. My Guzzi has a shaft and has been in the shop twice for rear drive leaks with 7700 miles on the odometer. In order to change the rear tire you literally have to pull the back end of the bike apart. Try doing that on gravel or hot tarmac on the side of the road in 90+ degrees. CB is significantly more user friendly in regards to circumstances like that. Replacing chain and sprockets is something I could do in a pinch. Working in the internals of a shaft drive is well beyond my capabilities.

Chain for the win.

So you would be one to buy a chain drive car if it were to become available? (again)