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Go, did you mean pulse width modulated?

(03-04-2021, 01:23 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Go, did you mean pulse width modulated?

Yes. I wasn't allowed to correct it. I think another member used the correct term as well, possibly in another thread.

Thx Lord!

LOL, I was thinking Hardy looked up PCM and is wondering what the heck it has to do with LEDs

(03-04-2021, 11:17 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]LOL, I was thinking Hardy looked up PCM and is wondering what the heck it has to do with LEDs

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.

(03-04-2021, 11:42 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-04-2021, 11:17 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]LOL, I was thinking Hardy looked up PCM and is wondering what the heck it has to do with LEDs

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.
It's not a bad idea. However, since it is almost a new bike (<1000 miles) I would hope the relay isn't already failing. Plus, the stock signals had no such flicker. What I suspect is more an issue with the LED's, not being designed to work at two different illumination levels, running and flashing. I get the sense these particular signals just have two states--flashing and off. But I also have a very limited understanding of LED's so I'm not sure.

Hardy, did you check your PM? Let me know if you want a diagram.

(03-05-2021, 01:47 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Hardy, did you check your PM? Let me know if you want a diagram.

Just saw it. Much appreciated!

(03-05-2021, 01:37 AM)hardylt_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-04-2021, 11:42 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-04-2021, 11:17 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]LOL, I was thinking Hardy looked up PCM and is wondering what the heck it has to do with LEDs

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.
It's not a bad idea. However, since it is almost a new bike (<1000 miles) I would hope the relay isn't already failing. Plus, the stock signals had no such flicker. What I suspect is more an issue with the LED's, not being designed to work at two different illumination levels, running and flashing. I get the sense these particular signals just have two states--flashing and off. But I also have a very limited understanding of LED's so I'm not sure.

RE relay: Moisture getting inside the relay (if traditional and not solid state) can happen while the device sits in a warehouse before assembled onto the CB1100 subsystem. This could, for example, oxidize the relay contacts.

RE LEDs: This could be a subsystem (your schematic diagram should reveal) that has a small processor that controls the mode of operation of the LED arrays. The logic is probably fine. It is the driver that could be having a bad experience. Maybe a marginal ground connection?

(03-05-2021, 02:43 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-05-2021, 01:37 AM)hardylt_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-04-2021, 11:42 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-04-2021, 11:17 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]LOL, I was thinking Hardy looked up PCM and is wondering what the heck it has to do with LEDs

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.
It's not a bad idea. However, since it is almost a new bike (<1000 miles) I would hope the relay isn't already failing. Plus, the stock signals had no such flicker. What I suspect is more an issue with the LED's, not being designed to work at two different illumination levels, running and flashing. I get the sense these particular signals just have two states--flashing and off. But I also have a very limited understanding of LED's so I'm not sure.

RE relay: Moisture getting inside the relay (if traditional and not solid state) can happen while the device sits in a warehouse before assembled onto the CB1100 subsystem. This could, for example, oxidize the relay contacts.

RE LEDs: This could be a subsystem (your schematic diagram should reveal) that has a small processor that controls the mode of operation of the LED arrays. The logic is probably fine. It is the driver that could be having a bad experience. Maybe a marginal ground connection?

RE relay: Moisture getting inside the relay (if traditional and not solid state) can happen while the device sits in a warehouse before assembled onto the CB1100 subsystem. This could, for example, oxidize the relay contacts.

RE LEDs: This could be a subsystem (your schematic diagram should reveal) that has a small processor that controls the mode of operation of the LED arrays. The logic is probably fine. It is the driver that could be having a bad experience. Maybe a marginal ground connection?
Maybe! This is the part where I am in over my head. I'll be checking my ground connections. But I have an LED relay from POSH coming in the mail now, plug and play with the stock connectors. We'll see if that does the trick. Thanks for the help thus far.

(03-06-2021, 11:22 AM)hardylt_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-05-2021, 02:43 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-05-2021, 01:37 AM)hardylt_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-04-2021, 11:42 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-04-2021, 11:17 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]LOL, I was thinking Hardy looked up PCM and is wondering what the heck it has to do with LEDs

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.

Yeah, I still grapple with autofill and PCM is definitely wrong. Maybe if the CB1100 could transmit data or music - then heh, yeah.

In any case, looking at the later posts, it is not unreasonable to look at a weakly held relay too. I have seen relays "weaken", maybe because of premature failure, though seldom for sealed units.
It's not a bad idea. However, since it is almost a new bike (<1000 miles) I would hope the relay isn't already failing. Plus, the stock signals had no such flicker. What I suspect is more an issue with the LED's, not being designed to work at two different illumination levels, running and flashing. I get the sense these particular signals just have two states--flashing and off. But I also have a very limited understanding of LED's so I'm not sure.

RE relay: Moisture getting inside the relay (if traditional and not solid state) can happen while the device sits in a warehouse before assembled onto the CB1100 subsystem. This could, for example, oxidize the relay contacts.

RE LEDs: This could be a subsystem (your schematic diagram should reveal) that has a small processor that controls the mode of operation of the LED arrays. The logic is probably fine. It is the driver that could be having a bad experience. Maybe a marginal ground connection?

RE relay: Moisture getting inside the relay (if traditional and not solid state) can happen while the device sits in a warehouse before assembled onto the CB1100 subsystem. This could, for example, oxidize the relay contacts.

RE LEDs: This could be a subsystem (your schematic diagram should reveal) that has a small processor that controls the mode of operation of the LED arrays. The logic is probably fine. It is the driver that could be having a bad experience. Maybe a marginal ground connection?
Maybe! This is the part where I am in over my head. I'll be checking my ground connections. But I have an LED relay from POSH coming in the mail now, plug and play with the stock connectors. We'll see if that does the trick. Thanks for the help thus far.

Good luck. Keep the "old" relay - if it is at fault. Many times they can be salvaged with a little electrical contact cleaner so long the coils are still healthy and used as a spare.