(01-15-2021, 11:34 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]its amazing, after 8 years and 65,000 miles on 2 CB 1100's, I still find it a most enjoyable motorcycle every time I ride it out of the driveway.
What's the stroy with the first one, did you buy a '13 and then liked the DLX '14 better when it came out the following year? Or was it something else?
It's (or was) all about the symmetry pdedse.
... or two is better than one? Twice the fun polishing twice the chrome.
(01-15-2021, 02:41 PM)pdedse_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021, 11:34 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]its amazing, after 8 years and 65,000 miles on 2 CB 1100's, I still find it a most enjoyable motorcycle every time I ride it out of the driveway.
What's the stroy with the first one, did you buy a '13 and then liked the DLX '14 better when it came out the following year? Or was it something else?
What's the story with the first one, did you buy a '13 and then liked the DLX '14 better when it came out the following year? Or was it something else?
Yes I bought the 13 actually before it was released, rode it one year, 8400 miles then when the 14 dlx came out I traded the 13 in. Loved the new features on the DLX... the chrome waterfall head pipes, the dual exhaust (like Cormanus said, the symmetry of it), the 6 speed trans, the silver motor and wheels, the larger capacity fuel tank, the digital gear indicator, the additional polished parts here and there.
I think the 13 was sportier, I think the 14 is classier. Loved my 13, love my 14 dlx more.
Back to square one, imagine you want a real good tourer with the following specs:
- under 200 kg / 450 lbs. empty,
- gross at least 170 kg higher
- any power or torque (who cares at today's speed limits)
- overall good quality, comfort seat and position for 1, better for 2,
- and no matter how old.
What would you buy ?
IMO there are very few bikes worth touring on under 450#. As matter of fact I can't think of one. Especially one capable of two up touring.
Even the 900 Tracer GT weighs 474# without side cases according to Yamaha's spec sheet
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-...ifications
A Tracer 700GT is rated at 432 pounds without bags and hardware, so it would be just over your lower limit of 450 pounds with bags, but personally I would not tour 2 up on a 700cc parallel twin. I might tour single up on a 700 class bike. I'm sure 2 average people plus gear and packed luggage would exceed the mfgs GVWR.
and neither of those bikes include a trunk.
not sure what gross at least 170kg higher means?
Well, the CB500x has a curb weight of 430 lbs (that includes all fluids and a full tank of gas) and a 4.7 US gallon tank. That gives you 20 lbs to play with for accessoriess.
I don't know what the gross weight before it is considered overloaded is. And I don't think it would work as well for 2 up.
My old (1970) BMW R75/5 with a Vetter Windjammer fairing and gas in the tank - I've no idea how much gas - weighed 498 lbs when I had it on a certified scale. I remember this because the company I worked for at the time wanted me to go on a temporary assignment to California for a year and said they would pay for moving 500 lbs of personal stuff. I asked "any personal stuff, it dosen't matter what it is?" and they said "yes, that's right" so they got to move my BMW.
(01-16-2021, 03:15 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]IMO there are very few bikes worth touring on under 450#. As matter of fact I can't think of one. Especially one capable of two up touring.
Even the 900 Tracer GT weighs 474# without side cases according to Yamaha's spec sheet
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-...ifications
A Tracer 700GT is rated at 432 pounds without bags and hardware, so it would be just over your lower limit of 450 pounds with bags, but personally I would not tour 2 up on a 700cc parallel twin. I might tour single up on a 700 class bike. I'm sure 2 average people plus gear and packed luggage would exceed the mfgs GVWR.
and neither of those bikes include a trunk.
not sure what gross at least 170kg higher means?
Agreed with the 2-up opinion on a small-med twin.
However, I have seen 2-up (senior adults) on a Yamaha Majesty 400 with gear and bags and they did cross-Canada and into the U.S. of A. They slowed-up climbing mountain highways, but otherwise managed consistently. In its latter life I recall one cylinder consuming more oil than normal, but nothing major or "coal-rolling"-like.
lol we had 2 Majesty scooters. Fine scooters. I wouldn't consider touring on one unless I had no other option. Great for local running around though. I think the furthest I ever took one was about 250 miles round trip
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