The CB1100 Community Forum

I've long felt that CB1100 sales have been meager, certainly by Honda's standards (pun intended). But I doubt those figures are a surprise to Honda. i think Honda primarily built this bike as s gift to themselves. As I've stated before, I think Honda just sort of threw North America a bone by finally offering it for sale over here. I doubt that they were expecting to sell that many of them at the prices they were asking. For those of us with an appreciation for this bike (and the funds of course for those of us who bought new) none of the other stuff matters all that much.

I read the article from start to finish. If the RS seat is similar to the 2014 standard seat, then I can agree with the author that it is not comfortable. Other than that, no agreement at all. He takes several positive things about the bike and turns them into negatives.

Like many riders, he appears to feel a great need for speed. There are other bikes for that. This bike is for those who like smooth perfection.

I have not tried the 2014 standard seat yet but 2017RS seat is quite comfortable
I've make couple trips with range of 3 - 400km within a day an no issue at all.

(12-13-2017, 11:57 AM)jerrycon_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I read the article from start to finish. If the RS seat is similar to the 2014 standard seat, then I can agree with the author that it is not comfortable. Other than that, no agreement at all. He takes several positive things about the bike and turns them into negatives.

Like many riders, he appears to feel a great need for speed. There are other bikes for that. This bike is for those who like smooth perfection.

(12-13-2017, 04:08 PM)itstuantran_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I have not tried the 2014 standard seat yet but 2017RS seat is quite comfortable
I've make couple trips with range of 3 - 400km within a day an no issue at all.

(12-13-2017, 11:57 AM)jerrycon_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I read the article from start to finish. If the RS seat is similar to the 2014 standard seat, then I can agree with the author that it is not comfortable. Other than that, no agreement at all. He takes several positive things about the bike and turns them into negatives.

Like many riders, he appears to feel a great need for speed. There are other bikes for that. This bike is for those who like smooth perfection.

Keep in mind this bike is for the European and Asian market. Those markets value retro style and high performance. It wasn't designed to appeal to the Long Distance rider or touring community. The RS was styled to look like a 1970s super bike, kitted out with the wide modern wheels, lower bars, and reportedly a few performance tweaks to the power band. It's also got the suspension and brake upgrades. So it looks the part of cafe racer. That culture is very popular for the intended market.

So the review is accurate from that point of view, as both the Thruxton and R9T offer more performance, at least on a spec sheet. North America doesn't get that bike, unfortunately, because I think it would sell very well. My neck of the woods is just lousy with R9Ts, T120/T100/Street Twin/Cup Triumphs, and the like. Those bikes are hugely popular in urban areas for both style and transportation. The CB1100RS would've fit right in. In fact, it would have drawn more attention in a parking lot full of bikes than either the Triumphs or the BMWs, in my opinion. And is likely still a much better standard motorcycle.

But maybe Honda'll bring it over if it's a success in Europe.

Then again, maybe the fact that the seat was the most controversial aspect of the machine is telling.

And what it probably tells Honda is they've made the right decision going up against the XSR900, Z900RS, along with the BMW and Triumph models, by squaring off against them with the CB1000R series.

I may have to take a look at one of those.

I LOVE the look of the new RS
The way they took out the tank seam is pure art.
(I can FIX the seat part and any other perceived "flaws")
I have already owned 190+ MPH bikes so speed is relative.
This one is a beauty and a true classic that pushes all the right buttons!!!
PLEASE bring them to the states!!!!

saddle + basic dimensions : our CB is veryy comfortable for bodys 170-175cm and 70-75kg ......amen.... i have no problems ...LOL

the suspension from the 17models are better (stronger) specaly from the RS .....

the saddle from the 17 EX has some littel littel other form..and somehow littel littel more harder.....

the saddle surface material from the RS is not that slippery like the EXs an 5mm higher

i drove the RS only 20-30 Min....in the first minutes was the RS geometry/ handling very strange compared to the EX....

our CB is a low rpm torque bike like a big chopper V2 .... finsih and over .... and absolutly not a sportbike like the actual ones.......for any peoples suggest the CB (RS) just a sportbike and they expect the performance just from actual sportbike......not wonder if they are disappointed..... thats it....

(12-14-2017, 03:22 AM)alprider_imp Wrote: [ -> ]saddle + basic dimensions : our CB is veryy comfortable for bodys 170-175cm and 70-75kg ......amen.... i have no problems ...LOL

the suspension from the 17models are better (stronger) specaly from the RS .....

the saddle from the 17 EX has some littel littel other form..and somehow littel littel more harder.....

the saddle surface material from the RS is not that slippery like the EXs an 5mm higher

i drove the RS only 20-30 Min....in the first minutes was the RS geometry/ handling very strange compared to the EX....

our CB is a low rpm torque bike like a big chopper V2 .... finsih and over .... and absolutly not a sportbike like the actual ones.......for any peoples suggest the CB (RS) just a sportbike and they expect the performance just from actual sportbike......not wonder if they are disappointed..... thats it....

I am guessing: harder to turn it at lower speeds, wants to stand up at higher cornering speeds (compared to the Standard or EX with 18" wheels).

Yep, wide seventeens are very different. But almost all bikes have them now. I like the 18" front/17" rear combination on my Street Cup, with moderately wide tires.

So, the CB1000R now has 143 HP...and weighs only 466 lbs wet. We can see who Honda is going after with that one.

(12-14-2017, 03:22 AM)alprider_imp Wrote: [ -> ]saddle + basic dimensions : our CB is veryy comfortable for bodys 170-175cm and 70-75kg ......amen.... i have no problems ...LOL

the suspension from the 17models are better (stronger) specaly from the RS .....

the saddle from the 17 EX has some littel littel other form..and somehow littel littel more harder.....

the saddle surface material from the RS is not that slippery like the EXs an 5mm higher

i drove the RS only 20-30 Min....in the first minutes was the RS geometry/ handling very strange compared to the EX....

our CB is a low rpm torque bike like a big chopper V2 .... finsih and over .... and absolutly not a sportbike like the actual ones.......for any peoples suggest the CB (RS) just a sportbike and they expect the performance just from actual sportbike......not wonder if they are disappointed..... thats it....

Yes but that said a skilled and smooth rider can get a CB1100 down the road and around the curves very quickly. I have one riding buddy who still owns a 2013, former racer of "classic" superbikes, and he LOVES his CB1100, and even more loves to catch out guys who think that CB1100 is ONLY an old man's bike.

Yep it is an old man's bike for sure...but...

i guess next season i will rent a RS for 1 day....for get know realy the real diffrence....

well clear with our CB you can drive fine " fluently " yes of course.......but just , you have no high rpm-powerkick and around sharp curves scratchs the pegs very early....sporty driving needs another


btw.

sometimes if i am on the way with my goldwing...means peoples sometimes haaa this wing boy i catch easy...but if i am in mood so they must some make an effort....yes its still too a question how good you can handle/drive the bike....

I thought it best to say that motorcycle choice is always a matter of personal taste, before saying anything else, "different strokes for different folks". I like the look of the RS, but for me there would need to be a significant "feature benefit" difference for me to go from my EX to the RS. However, if the 1100 was offered exactly the same as the drawing, I would probably do it in a heart beat. I had thought briefly about doing an aftermarket 4 into 4 exhaust on my EX, but cost, and having to do away with the center stand made me decide not to. My 1974 CB750 Four, and as I recall all the other 750 years ( correct me if I am wrong ) all had center stands, whether 4 into 4, 4 into 2, or 4 into 1. I think everyone already knows how handy it is to have that center stand. I had speculated 15 or more years ago that if Honda brought back a CB750 Four with updated technology, it would be a winner. I think that the vast majority of Forum members are probably Baby Boomers like me, that spent some of their best motorcycling saddle time on an air cooled 4, whether it was a Honda, Kawasaki, or Suzuki. Because Baby Boomers are rapidly becoming a very large segment of the population, it would then make sense for Honda to produce a bike aimed that that market, as I doubt very many of us, if any like the "Crotch Rockets" that seem to be so popular with the millennials. In my view, the CB1100 whether in SA, CA (EX), or the RS, is what Honda intended it to be, a sit back and enjoy the ride bike.

"harder to turn it at lower speeds, wants to stand up at higher cornering speeds (compared to the Standard or EX with 18" wheels)."
Ulvetanna, you are right on this. It takes more effort to make the bike turn at low speed.

(12-14-2017, 03:39 AM)Ulvetanna_imp Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-14-2017, 03:22 AM)alprider_imp Wrote: [ -> ]saddle + basic dimensions : our CB is veryy comfortable for bodys 170-175cm and 70-75kg ......amen.... i have no problems ...LOL

the suspension from the 17models are better (stronger) specaly from the RS .....

the saddle from the 17 EX has some littel littel other form..and somehow littel littel more harder.....

the saddle surface material from the RS is not that slippery like the EXs an 5mm higher

i drove the RS only 20-30 Min....in the first minutes was the RS geometry/ handling very strange compared to the EX....

our CB is a low rpm torque bike like a big chopper V2 .... finsih and over .... and absolutly not a sportbike like the actual ones.......for any peoples suggest the CB (RS) just a sportbike and they expect the performance just from actual sportbike......not wonder if they are disappointed..... thats it....

I am guessing: harder to turn it at lower speeds, wants to stand up at higher cornering speeds (compared to the Standard or EX with 18" wheels).

Yep, wide seventeens are very different. But almost all bikes have them now. I like the 18" front/17" rear combination on my Street Cup, with moderately wide tires.

So, the CB1000R now has 143 HP...and weighs only 466 lbs wet. We can see who Honda is going after with that one.

(12-14-2017, 03:22 AM)alprider_imp Wrote: [ -> ]saddle + basic dimensions : our CB is veryy comfortable for bodys 170-175cm and 70-75kg ......amen.... i have no problems ...LOL

the suspension from the 17models are better (stronger) specaly from the RS .....

the saddle from the 17 EX has some littel littel other form..and somehow littel littel more harder.....

the saddle surface material from the RS is not that slippery like the EXs an 5mm higher

i drove the RS only 20-30 Min....in the first minutes was the RS geometry/ handling very strange compared to the EX....

our CB is a low rpm torque bike like a big chopper V2 .... finsih and over .... and absolutly not a sportbike like the actual ones.......for any peoples suggest the CB (RS) just a sportbike and they expect the performance just from actual sportbike......not wonder if they are disappointed..... thats it....

Yes but that said a skilled and smooth rider can get a CB1100 down the road and around the curves very quickly. I have one riding buddy who still owns a 2013, former racer of "classic" superbikes, and he LOVES his CB1100, and even more loves to catch out guys who think that CB1100 is ONLY an old man's bike.

Yep it is an old man's bike for sure...but...

I am guessing:

Yep, wide seventeens are very different. But almost all bikes have them now. I like the 18" front/17" rear combination on my Street Cup, with moderately wide tires.

So, the CB1000R now has 143 HP...and weighs only 466 lbs wet. We can see who Honda is going after with that one.

(12-14-2017, 03:22 AM)alprider_imp Wrote: [ -> ]saddle + basic dimensions : our CB is veryy comfortable for bodys 170-175cm and 70-75kg ......amen.... i have no problems ...LOL

the suspension from the 17models are better (stronger) specaly from the RS .....

the saddle from the 17 EX has some littel littel other form..and somehow littel littel more harder.....

the saddle surface material from the RS is not that slippery like the EXs an 5mm higher

i drove the RS only 20-30 Min....in the first minutes was the RS geometry/ handling very strange compared to the EX....

our CB is a low rpm torque bike like a big chopper V2 .... finsih and over .... and absolutly not a sportbike like the actual ones.......for any peoples suggest the CB (RS) just a sportbike and they expect the performance just from actual sportbike......not wonder if they are disappointed..... thats it....

Yes but that said a skilled and smooth rider can get a CB1100 down the road and around the curves very quickly. I have one riding buddy who still owns a 2013, former racer of "classic" superbikes, and he LOVES his CB1100, and even more loves to catch out guys who think that CB1100 is ONLY an old man's bike.

Yep it is an old man's bike for sure...but...