(04-22-2021, 10:45 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (04-22-2021, 10:43 AM)suhawk305_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe I shouldn’t admit this: since the mid 1960’s, I never bothered with measuring chain slack. I just push the chain up to judge its play, and adjust if needed. Like ferret, it is too much work getting up from the floor.
That's how mechanics do it
and I hear ya brother 
(04-22-2021, 10:37 AM)rickcb_imp Wrote: [ -> ]The 2013-2014 service manual makes it fairly clear you measure the deflection from the resting position to the upper position. See the photo on page 3-19.
What is the best oil to use in the CB1100? Oil filter?
Rick, I think you are right about the pic in the manual. I forgot I even had a FSM, it was in the bottom of a drawer in my motorcycle gear room. lol
That's how mechanics do it
and I hear ya brother
(04-22-2021, 10:37 AM)rickcb_imp Wrote: [ -> ]The 2013-2014 service manual makes it fairly clear you measure the deflection from the resting position to the upper position. See the photo on page 3-19.
What is the best oil to use in the CB1100? Oil filter?
Rick, I think you are right about the pic in the manual. I forgot I even had a FSM, it was in the bottom of a drawer in my motorcycle gear room. lol I need to get one of those manuals. I been meaning to get the manual to see how to get to my air intake funnels
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this has been discussed before. like I said before, I come from the smiling chain is a happy chain school that ferret briefly mentioned. but it took no time at all for me to discover that doesn't work for the CB. under the least heavy acceleration my chain skipped teeth. I've never had that happen before. there is something different about this chain / sprocket set up. so I simply tightened it until it stopped skipping teeth under acceleration. how far a chain flexes when you pull on it depends on how hard you pull on it. it is why Harley has a tool that controls the amount of tension used to push / pull the belt on a Harley to measure slack. the other consideration is suspension travel. if the tautness of your chain interferes with suspension travel, you will have problems. one poster mentioned breaking the countershaft... I find that hard to believe, would think the chain would snap first. I've seen several chains snap. anyway, that's my .o2 worth.
(04-22-2021, 01:07 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]When I started riding motorcycles in the mid 60's we learned how to adjust a chain by finding any tight spot in chain, putting it in the middle of the lower run, then push up on the chain to measure slack.
In fact when I wrote the "How To adjust the chain on your CB 1100" for that section of the forum 6 years ago, that is how I advised doing it.
http://www.cb1100forum.com/forum/showthr...p?tid=7158
I've never seen a factory trained mechanic do anything other than push up from the lower run to gauge chain tension.
It seems now the procedure calls for starting out the same way but instead of pushing up to measure slack, now it seems they want you to pull DOWN first, then measure slack up from there. On a chain like the CB's which calls for 1"-1.4" that could make a heck of a difference in tautness.
I know chain tension isn't "critical" and we've always believe "a loose chain is happier than a tight chain", but was wondering which procedure you guys are using, and if any of you have tried to measure the difference using both methods?
something new to discuss.
We discussed this a few years ago. Apparently you are over-thinking it
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=12969
For what it's worth, I use method B, never had a problem.
(04-22-2021, 11:31 AM)jimgl3_imp Wrote: [ -> ]this has been discussed before. like I said before, I come from the smiling chain is a happy chain school that ferret briefly mentioned. but it took no time at all for me to discover that doesn't work for the CB. under the least heavy acceleration my chain skipped teeth. I've never had that happen before. there is something different about this chain / sprocket set up. so I simply tightened it until it stopped skipping teeth under acceleration. how far a chain flexes when you pull on it depends on how hard you pull on it. it is why Harley has a tool that controls the amount of tension used to push / pull the belt on a Harley to measure slack. the other consideration is suspension travel. if the tautness of your chain interferes with suspension travel, you will have problems. one poster mentioned breaking the countershaft... I find that hard to believe, would think the chain would snap first. I've seen several chains snap. anyway, that's my .o2 worth.
I bent the front pulley of a KZ440 from the belt being too tight, in turn the bent pulley bent my clutch push rod. I didnt know any better back then. But the belt was still 1 piece.
My dealer searched for an OEM clutch push rod and there was 1 left in the world.. I got it from Poland. Still in the original bag and sticker. It was yellowed and crispy lol
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(04-22-2021, 11:35 AM)Townie_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (04-22-2021, 01:07 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]When I started riding motorcycles in the mid 60's we learned how to adjust a chain by finding any tight spot in chain, putting it in the middle of the lower run, then push up on the chain to measure slack.
In fact when I wrote the "How To adjust the chain on your CB 1100" for that section of the forum 6 years ago, that is how I advised doing it.
http://www.cb1100forum.com/forum/showthr...p?tid=7158
I've never seen a factory trained mechanic do anything other than push up from the lower run to gauge chain tension.
It seems now the procedure calls for starting out the same way but instead of pushing up to measure slack, now it seems they want you to pull DOWN first, then measure slack up from there. On a chain like the CB's which calls for 1"-1.4" that could make a heck of a difference in tautness.
I know chain tension isn't "critical" and we've always believe "a loose chain is happier than a tight chain", but was wondering which procedure you guys are using, and if any of you have tried to measure the difference using both methods?
something new to discuss.
We discussed this a few years ago. Apparently you are over-thinking it
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=12969
For what it's worth, I use method B, never had a problem.
Geez I can't get down and back up and I can't remember a thread we had just 3 years ago. I see a nursing home in my future. Wonder if they will let me out for my daily rides
(04-22-2021, 11:46 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (04-22-2021, 11:35 AM)Townie_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (04-22-2021, 01:07 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]When I started riding motorcycles in the mid 60's we learned how to adjust a chain by finding any tight spot in chain, putting it in the middle of the lower run, then push up on the chain to measure slack.
In fact when I wrote the "How To adjust the chain on your CB 1100" for that section of the forum 6 years ago, that is how I advised doing it.
http://www.cb1100forum.com/forum/showthr...p?tid=7158
I've never seen a factory trained mechanic do anything other than push up from the lower run to gauge chain tension.
It seems now the procedure calls for starting out the same way but instead of pushing up to measure slack, now it seems they want you to pull DOWN first, then measure slack up from there. On a chain like the CB's which calls for 1"-1.4" that could make a heck of a difference in tautness.
I know chain tension isn't "critical" and we've always believe "a loose chain is happier than a tight chain", but was wondering which procedure you guys are using, and if any of you have tried to measure the difference using both methods?
something new to discuss.
We discussed this a few years ago. Apparently you are over-thinking it
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=12969
For what it's worth, I use method B, never had a problem.
Geez I can't get down and back up and I can't remember a thread we had just 3 years ago. I see a nursing home in my future. Wonder if they will let me out for my daily rides
Geez I can't get down and back up and I can't remember a thread we had just 3 years ago. I see a nursing home in my future. Wonder if they will let me out for my daily rides
LOL! Agree with you totally. Thank god we have a decent search engine on this forum
(04-22-2021, 11:46 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (04-22-2021, 11:35 AM)Townie_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (04-22-2021, 01:07 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]When I started riding motorcycles in the mid 60's we learned how to adjust a chain by finding any tight spot in chain, putting it in the middle of the lower run, then push up on the chain to measure slack.
In fact when I wrote the "How To adjust the chain on your CB 1100" for that section of the forum 6 years ago, that is how I advised doing it.
http://www.cb1100forum.com/forum/showthr...p?tid=7158
I've never seen a factory trained mechanic do anything other than push up from the lower run to gauge chain tension.
It seems now the procedure calls for starting out the same way but instead of pushing up to measure slack, now it seems they want you to pull DOWN first, then measure slack up from there. On a chain like the CB's which calls for 1"-1.4" that could make a heck of a difference in tautness.
I know chain tension isn't "critical" and we've always believe "a loose chain is happier than a tight chain", but was wondering which procedure you guys are using, and if any of you have tried to measure the difference using both methods?
something new to discuss.
We discussed this a few years ago. Apparently you are over-thinking it
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=12969
For what it's worth, I use method B, never had a problem.
Geez I can't get down and back up and I can't remember a thread we had just 3 years ago. I see a nursing home in my future. Wonder if they will let me out for my daily rides
Geez I can't get down and back up and I can't remember a thread we had just 3 years ago. I see a nursing home in my future. Wonder if they will let me out for my daily rides
Thats what side cars are for!
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What kind of 5W40 synthetic motor oil do you dabble on the CB1100 drive chain?
What grade do you use in winter?
(please, please! do not answer)
(04-22-2021, 12:08 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: [ -> ]What kind of 5W40 synthetic motor oil do you dabble on the CB1100 drive chain?
What grade do you use in winter?
(please, please! do not answer)
I use olive oil.. Extra Virgin
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Wrong! You must use HUBRIS omnigrade.