I can get coloured filters? Do they come in pink?
Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100
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Lord Popgun
Road warrior
:rofl: Oh yeah! Thats what I have. Makes the bike fast. And it HAS to be... :banana:
flynrider
Road warrior
What if the answer was "yes"?Cormanus_imp said:
DaSwami_imp
Been there
Huge believer in the Rotella T6, but ended up using it in my ATVs and switched to Amsoil metric for the CB1100. 10W/40.
The V7 calls for 10w/60 and the Scrambler 10w/50.
The Rotella is still a candidate for the TDub.
If I could only have ONE oil for gas, diesel, auto, bike it would be Rotella T6.
But I can have anything I want, and switched to Amsoil for the CB1100. Bought into the marketing I guess.
The V7 calls for 10w/60 and the Scrambler 10w/50.
The Rotella is still a candidate for the TDub.
If I could only have ONE oil for gas, diesel, auto, bike it would be Rotella T6.
But I can have anything I want, and switched to Amsoil for the CB1100. Bought into the marketing I guess.
Lord Popgun
Road warrior
What if the answer was "yes"?Flynrider_imp said:What if the answer was "yes"?Cormanus_imp said:
Jeez Flynrider, you too
:rofl:I've had the same issues as Dac:DAC_imp said:
CAUTION WHEN CHOOSING OIL
I think I may have been the first to post regarding heavier weight oil. I believe some bikes may have tighter passages than others and creates a lower knock in the motor. The same thing happens to Ford 5.4 Triton motors, running heavier oil creates a upper end block which blows head gaskets. Your bike may run fine but the oil is much thicker than 10-30 coming out of the bottle and @ temp.
Was on the road a few days and just came across this thread, hope this is helpful.
redbirds_imp
Road warrior
Strange, after reading in earlier posts about excess noise when using 10W/40 oil I switched back to the Honda 10W/30 to see if I could hear a difference. I could not hear any difference at all and Honda actually recommends using 10W/40 in areas of higher average temps. I did not switch to Rotella T6 until the second oil change and during initial breakin with the factory oil and after the first oil change with Honda synthetic 10W/30, I had been experiencing balky shifting into 5th gear with the motor fully warmed. Whether it was simply the extra miles put on, I don't know but the shifting problem vanished entirely when Rotella replaced the Honda 10W/30 at the second oil change.
The CB motor is inherently noisy anyway when compared to most liquid cooled bike motors. Pam's V-strom seems nearly "silent" in comparison.
Now, I take an oath not to comment in any more oil threads LOL.
The CB motor is inherently noisy anyway when compared to most liquid cooled bike motors. Pam's V-strom seems nearly "silent" in comparison.
Now, I take an oath not to comment in any more oil threads LOL.
What if the answer was "yes"?Lord Popgun_imp said:What if the answer was "yes"?Flynrider_imp said:What if the answer was "yes"?Cormanus_imp said:
Jeez Flynrider, you too
Jeez Flynrider, you too
:rofl: Well, hey, fellas, what can I say?
the Ferret
Road warrior
I am quite sure Shell Rotella T will not hurt your motor. Too many people on too many forums using it with no adverse effects.
I don't care what any one eldse uses in their motorcycles, their business. Shell, Amsoil, Honda, Yamalube, oem filters, K&N filters, Bosch filters, they all have their advocates and detractors but bottom line is it's more important that it is changed on a regualr basis than what it is changed with or to. I am not personally aware of any catastrophic engine failures due to oil or oil filter types in the last 45 years.
I can tell you up until Dec 31, 2006 Honda recommended 10W40 for all of their 4 stroke motorcycle engines. As of Jan 1, 2007 Honda has recommended 10W30. Why that change of recommendation and why on that date is any body's guess. Some has said it's for emissions, or for gas mileage. Who really knows.
All I know is that for my 2006 ST 1300 Honda recomends 10w40 and for the 2007 ST 1300 which is identical other than paint, it recommends 10w30. My 2014 CB1100 DLX they recommend 10W30. ALL Hondas since Jan 1, 2007 they say 10W30. Why? who knows. They do make allowances in the owners manual and service manual to allow 10W40.
Bottom line, I recommend that you use what you have faith in and are comfortable using.
I don't care what any one eldse uses in their motorcycles, their business. Shell, Amsoil, Honda, Yamalube, oem filters, K&N filters, Bosch filters, they all have their advocates and detractors but bottom line is it's more important that it is changed on a regualr basis than what it is changed with or to. I am not personally aware of any catastrophic engine failures due to oil or oil filter types in the last 45 years.
I can tell you up until Dec 31, 2006 Honda recommended 10W40 for all of their 4 stroke motorcycle engines. As of Jan 1, 2007 Honda has recommended 10W30. Why that change of recommendation and why on that date is any body's guess. Some has said it's for emissions, or for gas mileage. Who really knows.
All I know is that for my 2006 ST 1300 Honda recomends 10w40 and for the 2007 ST 1300 which is identical other than paint, it recommends 10w30. My 2014 CB1100 DLX they recommend 10W30. ALL Hondas since Jan 1, 2007 they say 10W30. Why? who knows. They do make allowances in the owners manual and service manual to allow 10W40.
Bottom line, I recommend that you use what you have faith in and are comfortable using.
Inhouse Bob
Road warrior
And that is why they call you the "Moderator." :beerchug:
Ulvetanna_imp
Road warrior
Yep just make sure it's the correct grade and JASO-MA. If in doubt use exactly what Honda specifies.The ferret_imp said:I am quite sure Shell Rotella T will not hurt your motor. Too many people on too many forums using it with no adverse effects.
I don't care what any one eldse uses in their motorcycles, their business. Shell, Amsoil, Honda, Yamalube, oem filters, K&N filters, Bosch filters, they all have their advocates and detractors but bottom line is it's more important that it is changed on a regualr basis than what it is changed with or to. I am not personally aware of any catastrophic engine failures due to oil or oil filter types in the last 45 years.
I can tell you up until Dec 31, 2006 Honda recommended 10W40 for all of their 4 stroke motorcycle engines. As of Jan 1, 2007 Honda has recommended 10W30. Why that change of recommendation and why on that date is any body's guess. Some has said it's for emissions, or for gas mileage. Who really knows.
All I know is that for my 2006 ST 1300 Honda recomends 10w40 and for the 2007 ST 1300 which is identical other than paint, it recommends 10w30. My 2014 CB1100 DLX they recommend 10W30. ALL Hondas since Jan 1, 2007 they say 10W30. Why? who knows. They do make allowances in the owners manual and service manual to allow 10W40.
Bottom line, I recommend that you use what you have faith in and are comfortable using.
Forgot to mention Yamaha will now provide 20 years or 100,000 miles warranty if you use only Yamalube oils. Maybe there is something to the OEM recommendations.
NightRider_imp
Been there
This sure seems like an oil thread. I normally stay away from oil threads so I suppose it is not since nobody is talking about oil. And I am here.
Besides, we all came to the conclusion that Honda oil and oil filters were best for Hondas and that the noise most of us experience to some degree, that one found in the lower neither regions when idling, is unaffected by oil changes and different oils because it was a small miss-adjustment in the balancer remedied by a small adjustment to the balancer found here from an earlier posted link I read on the forum.
(didn't think I was paying attention?)
Besides, we all came to the conclusion that Honda oil and oil filters were best for Hondas and that the noise most of us experience to some degree, that one found in the lower neither regions when idling, is unaffected by oil changes and different oils because it was a small miss-adjustment in the balancer remedied by a small adjustment to the balancer found here from an earlier posted link I read on the forum.
(didn't think I was paying attention?)
Bike #12_imp
Running like a top
About two years ago I posted this...
Stopped by the local shop to pick up a new oil filter. Asked about running 10W/40 weight oil in my CB. Guy at the counter said it was fine. Mentioned reason Honda changed to 10W/30 back in 2007 or so was for emissions. Just a FYI, the owners manual for my previous bike (BMW) cautioned against using synthetic oil during the first 6000 miles of use. Once I did change to synthetic, the transmission was A LOT smoother when shifting.
Stopped by the local shop to pick up a new oil filter. Asked about running 10W/40 weight oil in my CB. Guy at the counter said it was fine. Mentioned reason Honda changed to 10W/30 back in 2007 or so was for emissions. Just a FYI, the owners manual for my previous bike (BMW) cautioned against using synthetic oil during the first 6000 miles of use. Once I did change to synthetic, the transmission was A LOT smoother when shifting.
LongRanger_imp
Road warrior
Nope, it's a money-grab and a marketing campaign, plain and simple. This tells me that engine longevity doesn't depend on oil brand. Simply follow the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule and you'll be fine.Ulvetanna_imp said:Yep just make sure it's the correct grade and JASO-MA. If in doubt use exactly what Honda specifies.The ferret_imp said:I am quite sure Shell Rotella T will not hurt your motor. Too many people on too many forums using it with no adverse effects.
I don't care what any one eldse uses in their motorcycles, their business. Shell, Amsoil, Honda, Yamalube, oem filters, K&N filters, Bosch filters, they all have their advocates and detractors but bottom line is it's more important that it is changed on a regualr basis than what it is changed with or to. I am not personally aware of any catastrophic engine failures due to oil or oil filter types in the last 45 years.
I can tell you up until Dec 31, 2006 Honda recommended 10W40 for all of their 4 stroke motorcycle engines. As of Jan 1, 2007 Honda has recommended 10W30. Why that change of recommendation and why on that date is any body's guess. Some has said it's for emissions, or for gas mileage. Who really knows.
All I know is that for my 2006 ST 1300 Honda recomends 10w40 and for the 2007 ST 1300 which is identical other than paint, it recommends 10w30. My 2014 CB1100 DLX they recommend 10W30. ALL Hondas since Jan 1, 2007 they say 10W30. Why? who knows. They do make allowances in the owners manual and service manual to allow 10W40.
Bottom line, I recommend that you use what you have faith in and are comfortable using.
Forgot to mention Yamaha will now provide 20 years or 100,000 miles warranty if you use only Yamalube oils. Maybe there is something to the OEM recommendations.
It's funny that nobody agonizes over the brand of piston ring or big-end bearing in their engine, the wheel bearings in their front hub, the bolts holding their cylinder heads on, or the circlips keeping their transmission together. It's simply because oil changes are easily accessible by the consumer and the marketers know we're easily influenced and easy prey. It's the same with aftermarket exhaust systems, air filters, spark plugs, tires, clutch plates, brake levers, foot pegs, etc. We conveniently ignore the components we can't get our grubby little hands on, like critical engine internals, but we're all experts on consumables or the stuff we can tinker with. Marketing!
Ulvetanna_imp
Road warrior
Nope, it's a money-grab and a marketing campaign, plain and simple. This tells me that engine longevity doesn't depend on oil brand. Simply follow the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule and you'll be fine.LongRanger_imp said:Nope, it's a money-grab and a marketing campaign, plain and simple. This tells me that engine longevity doesn't depend on oil brand. Simply follow the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule and you'll be fine.Ulvetanna_imp said:Yep just make sure it's the correct grade and JASO-MA. If in doubt use exactly what Honda specifies.The ferret_imp said:I am quite sure Shell Rotella T will not hurt your motor. Too many people on too many forums using it with no adverse effects.
I don't care what any one eldse uses in their motorcycles, their business. Shell, Amsoil, Honda, Yamalube, oem filters, K&N filters, Bosch filters, they all have their advocates and detractors but bottom line is it's more important that it is changed on a regualr basis than what it is changed with or to. I am not personally aware of any catastrophic engine failures due to oil or oil filter types in the last 45 years.
I can tell you up until Dec 31, 2006 Honda recommended 10W40 for all of their 4 stroke motorcycle engines. As of Jan 1, 2007 Honda has recommended 10W30. Why that change of recommendation and why on that date is any body's guess. Some has said it's for emissions, or for gas mileage. Who really knows.
All I know is that for my 2006 ST 1300 Honda recomends 10w40 and for the 2007 ST 1300 which is identical other than paint, it recommends 10w30. My 2014 CB1100 DLX they recommend 10W30. ALL Hondas since Jan 1, 2007 they say 10W30. Why? who knows. They do make allowances in the owners manual and service manual to allow 10W40.
Bottom line, I recommend that you use what you have faith in and are comfortable using.
Forgot to mention Yamaha will now provide 20 years or 100,000 miles warranty if you use only Yamalube oils. Maybe there is something to the OEM recommendations.
It's funny that nobody agonizes over the brand of piston ring or big-end bearing in their engine, the wheel bearings in their front hub, the bolts holding their cylinder heads on, or the circlips keeping their transmission together. It's simply because oil changes are easily accessible by the consumer and the marketers know we're easily influenced and easy prey. It's the same with aftermarket exhaust systems, air filters, spark plugs, tires, clutch plates, brake levers, foot pegs, etc. We conveniently ignore the components we can't get our grubby little hands on, like critical engine internals, but we're all experts on consumables or the stuff we can tinker with. Marketing!
It's funny that nobody agonizes over the brand of piston ring or big-end bearing in their engine, the wheel bearings in their front hub, the bolts holding their cylinder heads on, or the circlips keeping their transmission together. It's simply because oil changes are easily accessible by the consumer and the marketers know we're easily influenced and easy prey. It's the same with aftermarket exhaust systems, air filters, spark plugs, tires, clutch plates, brake levers, foot pegs, etc. We conveniently ignore the components we can't get our grubby little hands on, like critical engine internals, but we're all experts on consumables or the stuff we can tinker with. Marketing! I very much agree with you about guys fretting over all kinds of things like oil, filters, O2 Sensors, and the like, whilst paying zero mind to all those inaccessible components. Out of sight, out of mind.
I don't see the Yamalube Warranty as a money-grab though. Yamaha just took first and second place in the French MotoGP, so I expect they know something about performance and durability.
Secondly, the Yamalube warranty costs nothing, and the rider gets a 20-year power train warranty just by using the Yamaha product.
I was choosing Yamalube for years because of the quality; one thing a guy notices is shifting ease, and Yamalube was at the top of the heap when it comes to shifting.
Now, I realize that if a guy is shifting at 1500 RPM perhaps he wouldn't notice, but snapping quick shifts up and down at high RPM, one can tell the difference. Honda oil is the same, very good. I choose OEM oil over Motul or any of the other brands because they work well in the transmission. That's really the only indicator that's palpable. Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha oils.
The Yamalube warranty is a cool perk and I'd have no issue signing up for it if I'd just purchased a new Yamaha. 15,000 redlining miles on my current Yamaha and a very, very clean bill of health so far. My reflash bumped the rev limiter up 500 RPM, engine seems to be loving it.
aschem_imp
Been there
:huh:
Well I was searching the forum looking for advice on synthetic oil and wondering why Honda was not using it with an air cooled bike. much has changed since my CB750 which I use valvoline semi synthetic high mileage 10/40 . before Honda brought out thier own oil they only used castrol here at the dealership . the original CB750 even used motor oil in the front shocks but switched a few years later to any kind of transmission fluid you want and mine uses ford T- fluid.
watched a vid of an Asian guy who only runs cooking oil in his Honda Club 50
watched a vid of an Asian guy who only runs cooking oil in his Honda Club 50
If difficulty finding 10W-30 online is what's leading you to alternative oils, I get Pro Honda 10W30 in handy gallon jugs from Jake Wilson. I order 4 at a time for free shipping. Comes out to about $5.12 per quart. I like the convenience; 5 minutes online, then the stuff is sitting on my porch a couple days later. Gallon jug is great for recycling the old oil, too.capttwb136_imp said:
Hope it helps!
capttwb136_imp
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