De-tuned Engine

[bubblerboy64_imp]

I have a 1200 sportster and a CB1100 and I am a little surprised that the Honda spanked the sportster. Pretty hard to race against myself but I would have thought it would have been very close. That sportster seems to pull like a tractor in lower gears.

As far as I am concerned both bikes have PLENTY of power. In fact unless you are riding two up any bike over 750 cc has more then enough (my opinion old guy remember)

When I first got into bikes a 300 cc was a BIG engined bike. Always wanted a 305 Big Bear Yamaha. Boy you never see one of those. Honda's are pretty common but the Yamaha's seem to be totally gone. Think that's because of the two stroke engines being less dependable and the bikes died young or that they just didn't sell as many?

[the Ferret]

I have a 1200 sportster and a CB1100 and I am a little surprised that the Honda spanked the sportster. Pretty hard to race against myself but I would have thought it would have been very close. That sportster seems to pull like a tractor in lower gears.

As far as I am concerned both bikes have PLENTY of power. In fact unless you are riding two up any bike over 750 cc has more then enough (my opinion old guy remember)

When I first got into bikes a 300 cc was a BIG engined bike. Always wanted a 305 Big Bear Yamaha. Boy you never see one of those. Honda's are pretty common but the Yamaha's seem to be totally gone. Think that's because of the two stroke engines being less dependable and the bikes died young or that they just didn't sell as many?

When your first street bike is a 50 cc, something with 6 times the displacement IS a big bike. Real " he men" rode 650 's lol.

Yamahas were just not as popular as Hondas and 2 strokes were never as popular as 4 strokes, therefore 2 stroke Yamahas are more rare.

[bubblerboy64_imp]

Yep first bike was a Honda Cub (50cc) and it was amazing what that little bike was able to do. A few of the fellows had Triumphs and of course the old guys had Harley's (some few had BMW's which were the nuts then) (mid 60's) but the high school/college kids had Honda's and Yamy's with an occasional Topper scooter in the mix. Glad I started small. Had little or no sense about the danger involved with cars or bikes. First car was a SAAB 2 stroke with about 38 hp and that was what I needed. Ran it as fast as it would go and if I'd have had 200 hp I'd have run it the same. I'm here because my parents had enough sense not to buy a car that would have tempted fate.

Sports bikes? No such thing and glad for it.

[the Ferret]

I remember the 2 stroke Saab cars. Hardly anyone believes they even existed when I mention them. I was working in a Sohio station ( now BP) and a guy came in with one. Asked me to fill it up, pour a can of oil he had in the gas tank, then jump up and down on the bumper to mix it up. That was in 1965 ish. I was riding a 50cc 2 stroke Aermacchi badged harley at the time, so I was familiar with the two stroke pre mixing ritual, but had never seen it in a car before. It had to be explained to me that Saabs were from Sweden and drove good in the snow.

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I have a 1200 sportster and a CB1100 and I am a little surprised that the Honda spanked the sportster. Pretty hard to race against myself but I would have thought it would have been very close. That sportster seems to pull like a tractor in lower gears.

As far as I am concerned both bikes have PLENTY of power. In fact unless you are riding two up any bike over 750 cc has more then enough (my opinion old guy remember)

When I first got into bikes a 300 cc was a BIG engined bike. Always wanted a 305 Big Bear Yamaha. Boy you never see one of those. Honda's are pretty common but the Yamaha's seem to be totally gone. Think that's because of the two stroke engines being less dependable and the bikes died young or that they just didn't sell as many?

Harley's basically run in the low 13's to mid 14's.
The V-Rod being the exception at 11.9
Softail Deuce at 13.1
Sportster 1200 Sport at 13.3
Sportster 1200 Custom at 13.8
Fat Boy at 13.9
Dyna Super Glide at 14.03
Dyna Super Glide Sport at 13.8
Heritage Classic at 14.2
Sportster 883 Standard at 14.7
Sportster 883R at 15.6

Like I said in an earlier post.I whipped the noodle of a
1200 Sporster a few weeks back.I even gave the guy a
chance at a hole shot.I remember my CB just passed the
300 mile mark.Like around 315.

I remember the 2 stroke Saab cars. Hardly anyone believes they even existed when I mention them. I was working in a Sohio station ( now BP) and a guy came in with one. Asked me to fill it up, pour a can of oil he had in the gas tank, then jump up and down on the bumper to mix it up. That was in 1965 ish. I was riding a 50cc 2 stroke Aermacchi badged harley at the time, so I was familiar with the two stroke pre mixing ritual, but had never seen it in a car before. It had to be explained to me that Saabs were from Sweden and drove good in the snow.

I haven't heard or read the word Sohio in probably 25 years.
Man,the closest gas station to my home growing up in
Cleveland was a corner Sohio gas station.That's where I went to
put like $ 2 bucks worth of gas into our MGB.I even remember
the cost of gallon of gas.I remember 34 cents.

[bubblerboy64_imp]

Yep. One quart of SAAB two stroke oil and 7 gallons of gas. As to jumping on the bumper NEVER saw that one. I think a fill up cost $1:50 but that was a good hourly wage. Figure what seven gallons cost today and it's about the same. I'm driving a Chevy Spark as a daily driver and it reminds me of that little SAAB in some ways. About the same size. It's a WAY better car in every respect. The SAAB wasn't all that great on gas. Probably got 25 miles per gallon or a little better. The Spark gets about 35 at the worst. There is a 1969 SAAB on Ebay right now that's about as nice as I've ever seen. It's a 4 cylinder 4 stroke (much more powerful engine). I'd love to have that car but it's going to sell for crazy money.

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I'm quite disappointed with the CB1100's performance. I have a series of many Honda Superbikes from the mid-70s to the present, and my 30-year-old 1983 CB1100F just spanks the new CB11 pooch.

That bike should have been the benchmark for the new CB11 for both style and performance. I need to find 20+ more hp for the newbie. But I'll trade up for a 2014 before doing so.

[kenfyoozed_imp]

I guess it all depends what you were riding before this one. I was on a Buell Blast, so this has almost 2.5 times more hp stock, and closer to 3 times with the mods Fuzzy did to this bike per the dyno runs. It has all the power I need right now, sure I'll want more power someday.

[the Ferret]

I sold a 125 hp Yamaha FZ -1 to get my CB 1100. Horsepower isn't everything.

[Deanohh_imp]

Honda makes superbikes. Anyone can buy them. The CB1100 is not one of them.