How to tell if has ABS

[lagoje_imp]

I believe (but not 100% certain) that the ABS models have a tube that "combines" both calipers on the front. Here is a pic of mine with ABS. Anyone with non-ABS have this?


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[the Ferret]

Those are hydraulic brake fluid hoses. My NON ABS has separate brake fluid hoses running from each caliper up to a junction bolted to the center of the lower triple tree.

Wow that looks like a pretty complicated system, I 'd like to see better, clearer close up with better light pics of that sometime if you get the chance.

[lagoje_imp]

I stepped out to the garage and took
a few more. Will have better lighting tomorrow.

I'll check tomorrow to see if anything connects to the rear brake. I think Front and rear are linked in the combined ABS


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[Randy B]

It's pretty complicated because it's also a linked breaking system.

[the Ferret]

Wonder how hard that would be to bleed?

[emptysea]

He could have just slammed on the brakes on wet pavement....maybe easier to look for the slotted ring, though.

[axolotl_imp]

Front wheel on NON ABS model ..notice no slotted ring

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Rear wheel on NON ABS model .. notice slotted ring.. this is NOT an ABS ring on this model, it is a speed sensor

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I own a 2013 CB1100 theoretically without ABS (no dash light), but has the slotted ring on the rear wheel as you show. Why do they have a speed sensor on the rear wheel of the non-ABS model, unless it's just for the speedo/odo-meter?

After researching the issue for a few days, such as by looking at the Honda website, and calling service at my shop and having them tell me the slotted wheel and wire are for ABS, I have come to the following conclusion: The base model of the bike ($9,999) has rear-wheel only 'ABS', i.e., equipment that keeps the rear wheel only from locking up; unlike what Honda calls "Combined ABS", which not only does this but also applies a small amount of front brake when you step on the rear. The Combined ABS model is the CB1100-'A' (as shown on the cover of the owner's manual), the basic model is designated simply CB1100 (plus year designation such as 'D' for 2013 in the U.S.)

I suppose the reason Honda doesn't call the basic model 'CB-1100 rear ABS' or something is to avoid confusion, so people getting the base model won't think they're getting the Combined ABS.

[Deanohh_imp]

Nice try. The rear wheel sensor IS only for the speedo/odometer......and the speed limiter.

and don't stomp the rear and expect it not to skid.

[axolotl_imp]

Nice try. The rear wheel sensor IS only for the speedo/odometer......and the speed limiter.

and don't stomp the rear and expect it not to skid.

I thought the electronic speedos on recent Honda bikes uses a sensor on the transmission 'output shaft', i.e., something in the gearbox?

[Rolls_imp]

Nope. Speedo takes reading from rear wheel ring. No rear-only ABS - I've locked the rear a few times.