Fear of death or injury

[MFGUSA_imp]

I will allow, as long as it doesn't offend. (hand hovering over edit button)

And while I am there lets please refrain from using dirty words everyone, don't want the site to turn into bar talk. It has been mentioned to me that more of it seems to be popping up lately.

[Red Mist_imp]

Fighter Aircraft relate to Motorcycles better than anything else imaginable. From what I've read many WWII pilots acquired military surplus Harleys in order to continue their comradery with their buddies after the war. You're all smart guys and would know that anyways so why would fighter aircraft be off topic with bikes and the fear of death? This is all a good read so far.

Any one here read "A Question of Honor"? Enormously good book regarding the Kosciuszko Squadron during the BoB.

Ferret, I see none of the words on Carlins' list present so what's the cut off?...Crap maybe?

+1 on that, flying and riding a motorcycle or bicycle - in a higher performance envelope - definitely have a lot in common. I dinna see any of Carlin's words, either.

Lets discuss this for a moment.

What is the point of eliminating any term that may suggest a bodily function? No progress in this world of ours was ever made by denying the natural processes. Medical science would not have advanced, technology would not move forward; removing references to natural functions stems from a desire to deny the fact we ourselves are natural creatures. Now if it's an epithet or just plain foul language for the purpose of insulting someone, that's another matter.

I love to trash talk, and it's been my direct, personal experience that most racers, from World Champions on down, use the most excoriating kinds of langwidge. Why, I've heard one feller (just call me Breckinridge right now) let loose with streak of langwidge that would bring blue ruin to anyone which was inside earshot. And that cuss had three World Championships under his belt. We was trying to fix something which was wrong with his mechanicals. (This is a true story).

Jest about nine outta ten of your averidge racers will use up ever' one of Senor Carlin's words in the first sentence out, and then after that they'll serve up a string of variations on them words which will curl yore hair and bring tears into yore eyes.

It's just my experience that the majority of yore so-called outstanding and exceptional type use every kind of different langwidge relating to body parts, yore personal ancestry, yore religin, and yore part of the woods than jest about anybody.

Besides, Thanksgiving was over last November so does that mean we have permission to say pee?

[Cormanus]

My late father was flying reconnaissance in a Mustang when he was shot down. Waste of a plane. He spent the rest of the war in a POW camp.

Very good thread this, centered on risk taking. For those with an interest in WWII aircraft and the Spitfire especially, a link to a short film about US reconnaissance pilots who flew the iconic plane.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ie3SrjLlcUY

My apologies for getting off topic a bit.

Very good thread this, centered on risk taking. For those with an interest in WWII aircraft and the Spitfire especially, a link to a short film about US reconnaissance pilots who flew the iconic plane.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ie3SrjLlcUY

My apologies for getting off topic a bit.
Thanks for that, Redbirds. Fascinating. So the US pilots were flying Spitfires while my father, a Pommie, was flying a Mustang for photo reconnaissance.

Why the dickens did you bring that up?

How could he possibly have guessed, or is this "wrapping in jeweller's cotton" part of some never ending historical slide? What a horrible thought.

Warning: this post may contain the hint of a pun.

I hope you googled that up. If not, then not only are you a gentleman, you are also a scholar. And that's scary.

Quote:part of some never ending historical slide?. I am afraid so.

Cheers

I hope you googled that up. If not, then not only are you a gentleman, you are also a scholar. And that's scary.

Quote:part of some never ending historical slide?. I am afraid so.

Cheers
Pterodactyl, I'm afraid I googled it, but I have read Bleak House a very long time ago. The Tasmanian author, Richard Flanagan, has written a curious novel about Dickens and other things. It's called Wanting.

[Tortuga_imp]

Fighter Aircraft relate to Motorcycles better than anything else imaginable. From what I've read many WWII pilots acquired military surplus Harleys in order to continue their comradery with their buddies after the war. You're all smart guys and would know that anyways so why would fighter aircraft be off topic with bikes and the fear of death? This is all a good read so far.

Any one here read "A Question of Honor"? Enormously good book regarding the Kosciuszko Squadron during the BoB.

Ferret, I see none of the words on Carlins' list present so what's the cut off?...Crap maybe?

+1 on that, flying and riding a motorcycle or bicycle - in a higher performance envelope - definitely have a lot in common. I dinna see any of Carlin's words, either.

Lets discuss this for a moment.

What is the point of eliminating any term that may suggest a bodily function? No progress in this world of ours was ever made by denying the natural processes. Medical science would not have advanced, technology would not move forward; removing references to natural functions stems from a desire to deny the fact we ourselves are natural creatures. Now if it's an epithet or just plain foul language for the purpose of insulting someone, that's another matter.

I love to trash talk, and it's been my direct, personal experience that most racers, from World Champions on down, use the most excoriating kinds of langwidge. Why, I've heard one feller (just call me Breckinridge right now) let loose with streak of langwidge that would bring blue ruin to anyone which was inside earshot. And that cuss had three World Championships under his belt. We was trying to fix something which was wrong with his mechanicals. (This is a true story).

Jest about nine outta ten of your averidge racers will use up ever' one of Senor Carlin's words in the first sentence out, and then after that they'll serve up a string of variations on them words which will curl yore hair and bring tears into yore eyes.

It's just my experience that the majority of yore so-called outstanding and exceptional type use every kind of different langwidge relating to body parts, yore personal ancestry, yore religin, and yore part of the woods than jest about anybody.

Besides, Thanksgiving was over last November so does that mean we have permission to say pee?

+1 on that, flying and riding a motorcycle or bicycle - in a higher performance envelope - definitely have a lot in common. I dinna see any of Carlin's words, either.

Lets discuss this for a moment.

What is the point of eliminating any term that may suggest a bodily function? No progress in this world of ours was ever made by denying the natural processes. Medical science would not have advanced, technology would not move forward; removing references to natural functions stems from a desire to deny the fact we ourselves are natural creatures. Now if it's an epithet or just plain foul language for the purpose of insulting someone, that's another matter.

I love to trash talk, and it's been my direct, personal experience that most racers, from World Champions on down, use the most excoriating kinds of langwidge. Why, I've heard one feller (just call me Breckinridge right now) let loose with streak of langwidge that would bring blue ruin to anyone which was inside earshot. And that cuss had three World Championships under his belt. We was trying to fix something which was wrong with his mechanicals. (This is a true story).

Jest about nine outta ten of your averidge racers will use up ever' one of Senor Carlin's words in the first sentence out, and then after that they'll serve up a string of variations on them words which will curl yore hair and bring tears into yore eyes.

It's just my experience that the majority of yore so-called outstanding and exceptional type use every kind of different langwidge relating to body parts, yore personal ancestry, yore religin, and yore part of the woods than jest about anybody.

Besides, Thanksgiving was over last November so does that mean we have permission to say pee?


God Red Mist,

If find all of your posts rather compelling as I do Spaceman's.

What surprises me is that I find your (blatantly intentional) mis-spelling of words not only evocative, but charming. A bit like reading Chaucer or Dylan Thomas.

I wouldn't change a thing in the way you write, in fact it would be like adding water to wine, it would dilute it and ruin it.

The best thing about this forum is not the bike we're all tirelessly discussing, but the characters, the personalities, and the banter we all share.

On this note. Let's not get too anal about petty swearing (please) as I think it adds as much to a story as it (possibly) detracts from the the decorum in a very tight knit and close forum such as this

We all get on, and no venom is ever spat.

Let's just keep it sensible but not stifle 'spirited debate'.

[Cormanus]

Fighter Aircraft relate to Motorcycles better than anything else imaginable. From what I've read many WWII pilots acquired military surplus Harleys in order to continue their comradery with their buddies after the war. You're all smart guys and would know that anyways so why would fighter aircraft be off topic with bikes and the fear of death? This is all a good read so far.

Any one here read "A Question of Honor"? Enormously good book regarding the Kosciuszko Squadron during the BoB.

Ferret, I see none of the words on Carlins' list present so what's the cut off?...Crap maybe?

+1 on that, flying and riding a motorcycle or bicycle - in a higher performance envelope - definitely have a lot in common. I dinna see any of Carlin's words, either.

Lets discuss this for a moment.

What is the point of eliminating any term that may suggest a bodily function? No progress in this world of ours was ever made by denying the natural processes. Medical science would not have advanced, technology would not move forward; removing references to natural functions stems from a desire to deny the fact we ourselves are natural creatures. Now if it's an epithet or just plain foul language for the purpose of insulting someone, that's another matter.

I love to trash talk, and it's been my direct, personal experience that most racers, from World Champions on down, use the most excoriating kinds of langwidge. Why, I've heard one feller (just call me Breckinridge right now) let loose with streak of langwidge that would bring blue ruin to anyone which was inside earshot. And that cuss had three World Championships under his belt. We was trying to fix something which was wrong with his mechanicals. (This is a true story).

Jest about nine outta ten of your averidge racers will use up ever' one of Senor Carlin's words in the first sentence out, and then after that they'll serve up a string of variations on them words which will curl yore hair and bring tears into yore eyes.

It's just my experience that the majority of yore so-called outstanding and exceptional type use every kind of different langwidge relating to body parts, yore personal ancestry, yore religin, and yore part of the woods than jest about anybody.

Besides, Thanksgiving was over last November so does that mean we have permission to say pee?

+1 on that, flying and riding a motorcycle or bicycle - in a higher performance envelope - definitely have a lot in common. I dinna see any of Carlin's words, either.

Lets discuss this for a moment.

What is the point of eliminating any term that may suggest a bodily function? No progress in this world of ours was ever made by denying the natural processes. Medical science would not have advanced, technology would not move forward; removing references to natural functions stems from a desire to deny the fact we ourselves are natural creatures. Now if it's an epithet or just plain foul language for the purpose of insulting someone, that's another matter.

I love to trash talk, and it's been my direct, personal experience that most racers, from World Champions on down, use the most excoriating kinds of langwidge. Why, I've heard one feller (just call me Breckinridge right now) let loose with streak of langwidge that would bring blue ruin to anyone which was inside earshot. And that cuss had three World Championships under his belt. We was trying to fix something which was wrong with his mechanicals. (This is a true story).

Jest about nine outta ten of your averidge racers will use up ever' one of Senor Carlin's words in the first sentence out, and then after that they'll serve up a string of variations on them words which will curl yore hair and bring tears into yore eyes.

It's just my experience that the majority of yore so-called outstanding and exceptional type use every kind of different langwidge relating to body parts, yore personal ancestry, yore religin, and yore part of the woods than jest about anybody.

Besides, Thanksgiving was over last November so does that mean we have permission to say pee?


God Red Mist,

If find all of your posts rather compelling as I do Spaceman's.

What surprises me is that I find your (blatantly intentional) mis-spelling of words not only evocative, but charming. A bit like reading Chaucer or Dylan Thomas.

I wouldn't change a thing in the way you write, in fact it would be like adding water to wine, it would dilute it and ruin it.

The best thing about this forum is not the bike we're all tirelessly discussing, but the characters, the personalities, and the banter we all share.

On this note. Let's not get too anal about petty swearing (please) as I think it adds as much to a story as it (possibly) detracts from the the decorum in a very tight knit and close forum such as this

We all get on, and no venom is ever spat.

Let's just keep it sensible but not stifle 'spirited debate'.

Tortuga,

I'm sure I detected just a hint of venom being spat at your mate Chris in a recent post. But I support your sentiment.

Should you be curious about the origin of Mr Mist's linguistic ingenuity, wait—and it probably won't be long—for a miserable Pommie day when it's pi .... er ... pouring with rain, fire up your computer and hunt down Robert E Howard's Breckenridge Elkins stories. You'll discover a wonderful world of mayhem, misspelling and a capacity for blame shifting that borders on the gobsmacking. You may well also get a damned good laugh.

[Tortuga_imp]

Fighter Aircraft relate to Motorcycles better than anything else imaginable. From what I've read many WWII pilots acquired military surplus Harleys in order to continue their comradery with their buddies after the war. You're all smart guys and would know that anyways so why would fighter aircraft be off topic with bikes and the fear of death? This is all a good read so far.

Any one here read "A Question of Honor"? Enormously good book regarding the Kosciuszko Squadron during the BoB.

Ferret, I see none of the words on Carlins' list present so what's the cut off?...Crap maybe?

+1 on that, flying and riding a motorcycle or bicycle - in a higher performance envelope - definitely have a lot in common. I dinna see any of Carlin's words, either.

Lets discuss this for a moment.

What is the point of eliminating any term that may suggest a bodily function? No progress in this world of ours was ever made by denying the natural processes. Medical science would not have advanced, technology would not move forward; removing references to natural functions stems from a desire to deny the fact we ourselves are natural creatures. Now if it's an epithet or just plain foul language for the purpose of insulting someone, that's another matter.

I love to trash talk, and it's been my direct, personal experience that most racers, from World Champions on down, use the most excoriating kinds of langwidge. Why, I've heard one feller (just call me Breckinridge right now) let loose with streak of langwidge that would bring blue ruin to anyone which was inside earshot. And that cuss had three World Championships under his belt. We was trying to fix something which was wrong with his mechanicals. (This is a true story).

Jest about nine outta ten of your averidge racers will use up ever' one of Senor Carlin's words in the first sentence out, and then after that they'll serve up a string of variations on them words which will curl yore hair and bring tears into yore eyes.

It's just my experience that the majority of yore so-called outstanding and exceptional type use every kind of different langwidge relating to body parts, yore personal ancestry, yore religin, and yore part of the woods than jest about anybody.

Besides, Thanksgiving was over last November so does that mean we have permission to say pee?

+1 on that, flying and riding a motorcycle or bicycle - in a higher performance envelope - definitely have a lot in common. I dinna see any of Carlin's words, either.

Lets discuss this for a moment.

What is the point of eliminating any term that may suggest a bodily function? No progress in this world of ours was ever made by denying the natural processes. Medical science would not have advanced, technology would not move forward; removing references to natural functions stems from a desire to deny the fact we ourselves are natural creatures. Now if it's an epithet or just plain foul language for the purpose of insulting someone, that's another matter.

I love to trash talk, and it's been my direct, personal experience that most racers, from World Champions on down, use the most excoriating kinds of langwidge. Why, I've heard one feller (just call me Breckinridge right now) let loose with streak of langwidge that would bring blue ruin to anyone which was inside earshot. And that cuss had three World Championships under his belt. We was trying to fix something which was wrong with his mechanicals. (This is a true story).

Jest about nine outta ten of your averidge racers will use up ever' one of Senor Carlin's words in the first sentence out, and then after that they'll serve up a string of variations on them words which will curl yore hair and bring tears into yore eyes.

It's just my experience that the majority of yore so-called outstanding and exceptional type use every kind of different langwidge relating to body parts, yore personal ancestry, yore religin, and yore part of the woods than jest about anybody.

Besides, Thanksgiving was over last November so does that mean we have permission to say pee?


God Red Mist,

If find all of your posts rather compelling as I do Spaceman's.

What surprises me is that I find your (blatantly intentional) mis-spelling of words not only evocative, but charming. A bit like reading Chaucer or Dylan Thomas.

I wouldn't change a thing in the way you write, in fact it would be like adding water to wine, it would dilute it and ruin it.

The best thing about this forum is not the bike we're all tirelessly discussing, but the characters, the personalities, and the banter we all share.

On this note. Let's not get too anal about petty swearing (please) as I think it adds as much to a story as it (possibly) detracts from the the decorum in a very tight knit and close forum such as this

We all get on, and no venom is ever spat.

Let's just keep it sensible but not stifle 'spirited debate'.

Tortuga,

I'm sure I detected just a hint of venom being spat at your mate Chris in a recent post. But I support your sentiment.

Should you be curious about the origin of Mr Mist's linguistic ingenuity, wait—and it probably won't be long—for a miserable Pommie day when it's pi .... er ... pouring with rain, fire up your computer and hunt down Robert E Howard's Breckenridge Elkins stories. You'll discover a wonderful world of mayhem, misspelling and a capacity for blame shifting that borders on the gobsmacking. You may well also get a damned good laugh.

Tortuga,

I'm sure I detected just a hint of venom being spat at your mate Chris in a recent post. But I support your sentiment.

Should you be curious about the origin of Mr Mist's linguistic ingenuity, wait—and it probably won't be long—for a miserable Pommie day when it's pi .... er ... pouring with rain, fire up your computer and hunt down Robert E Howard's Breckenridge Elkins stories. You'll discover a wonderful world of mayhem, misspelling and a capacity for blame shifting that borders on the gobsmacking. You may well also get a damned good laugh.
Thanks, I had kind of sussed that this was all part of his 'alter ego' as this Elkins character, bit somehow I prefer to watch the impersonator than the celebrity, as it's often funnier and less 'disingenuous'.

I am a pretty mellow bloke, but the Internet is never a true reflection of one's 'charisma'.

And no I'm not taking the pi...er rain.

[Pterodactyl_imp]

My late father was flying reconnaissance in a Mustang when he was shot down. Waste of a plane. He spent the rest of the war in a POW camp.

Very good thread this, centered on risk taking. For those with an interest in WWII aircraft and the Spitfire especially, a link to a short film about US reconnaissance pilots who flew the iconic plane.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ie3SrjLlcUY

My apologies for getting off topic a bit.

Very good thread this, centered on risk taking. For those with an interest in WWII aircraft and the Spitfire especially, a link to a short film about US reconnaissance pilots who flew the iconic plane.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ie3SrjLlcUY

My apologies for getting off topic a bit.
Thanks for that, Redbirds. Fascinating. So the US pilots were flying Spitfires while my father, a Pommie, was flying a Mustang for photo reconnaissance.

Why the dickens did you bring that up?

How could he possibly have guessed, or is this "wrapping in jeweller's cotton" part of some never ending historical slide? What a horrible thought.

Warning: this post may contain the hint of a pun.

I hope you googled that up. If not, then not only are you a gentleman, you are also a scholar. And that's scary.

Quote:part of some never ending historical slide?. I am afraid so.

Cheers

I hope you googled that up. If not, then not only are you a gentleman, you are also a scholar. And that's scary.

Quote:part of some never ending historical slide?. I am afraid so.

Cheers
Pterodactyl, I'm afraid I googled it, but I have read Bleak House a very long time ago. The Tasmanian author, Richard Flanagan, has written a curious novel about Dickens and other things. It's called Wanting.

It's the six degrees of separation thing. My first instructor was on RAF loan. He was a remarkable man. His last tour was PR Spits. Sky blue colour and pressurised, not sure which model, probably about the Mark VIII so so. He would say that he preferred the peace of high altitude flight to mixing it at low level with those with teeth. This from a man who started on Hurricanes in '40 and was a DFC and more. A real gentleman with a sense of modesty that was remarkable. When pushed for "warries" they were always about his colleagues rather than himself. I think I was one of his greatest challenges. When he passed me on his only comment was "If you last a thousand hours you will probably be OK".

Our American friends, I think Tom Brokaw specifically, coined a phrase the Greatest Generation. That, of course, simplifies history somewhat, however your Dad, and all those others from that era could give us some valuable lessons in the "Right Thing", rather than the "Right Stuff".

Have read and enjoyed the The Unknown Terrorist so will give Wanting a burl.

Cheers[/u][/b]

[Tortuga_imp]

This thread just gets better!

I love the parallel betwixt bikes and flying. I have the same trepidation stepping on board a plane (I don't fly them) as I do jumping on my bike. More so on the plane as although it's statistically safer, I'm NOT IN CONTROL!! Very worrying for me..

I've ridden bikes (well one) at 174mph.

I've nearly killed myself numerous times by 'pushing the envelope' or whatever that expression is, yet I've survived.

I think, just maybe, the risk makes it fun, albeit retrospectively.

How many times (for the non pilots and mere riders amongst us) have you saddled up with a weird feeling of terror or dread about you, expecting this to be your last two wheeled foray, only to come home hours laters totally fine?

And then you wallow in the almost post-coital numbness of survival. Sitting with cold knees and a cold beer, feeling like you cheated death once again, whilst recalling all the highlights of the ride...

[Pterodactyl_imp]

I've deleted a couple from Carlin's list most probably never saw but I'd say anything that has to do with the release of the kidneys or bowels, or someone that would have sex with your mother, the ones we most likely use in everyday conversation when just the men are together, but not in mixed company

You know, the ones we wouldn't use with our mother and kids sitting at the Thanksgiving Dinner table.

Does that give the rest of the world carte blanche?


Cheers

[Tortuga_imp]

I've deleted a couple from Carlin's list most probably never saw but I'd say anything that has to do with the release of the kidneys or bowels, or someone that would have sex with your mother, the ones we most likely use in everyday conversation when just the men are together, but not in mixed company

You know, the ones we wouldn't use with our mother and kids sitting at the Thanksgiving Dinner table.

Does that give the rest of the world carte blanche?


Cheers

Does that give the rest of the world carte blanche?


Cheers
Good spot! I missed that loophole.

Since I've never had kids or celebrated 'Thanksgiving' and my table is being fed into the fire, piece by piece, I guess I can say what the FUDGE I WANT!