New owner... Vibrations.. And a question

[GoldOxide_imp]

Oh dang, you mentioned the Africa Twin! I've successfully avoided getting one for years now - I'm growing weaker.

If Honda comes out with a baby AT, or that CB1100X based on the AT engine - my knees will really get weak.

This one? https://amcn.com.au/editorial/new-honda-...-pipeline/

Nice fresh link.

Hard to imagine something like the NT1100 twin "replacing" what used to be the V4 line of Hondas. Euro 5 compliant V4 Hondas may never be.

[rboe]

That's the one.

Kinda like a Honda version of the Multistrada.

[Ayrshire Dunx_imp]

As a coda to this I am reading in several places that Honda 'added' vibration when the RS and EX models came out to give them more character. Anybody know if the engines are different at all, with regard to cam timings and balancing from the previous ones?

[Lord Popgun]

AD, read the first post by Cormanus and you might get some insight. It is mentioned but I forget which of the .pdf files. Good reading.

http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16853

[Tev62]

As a coda to this I am reading in several places that Honda 'added' vibration when the RS and EX models came out to give them more character. Anybody know if the engines are different at all, with regard to cam timings and balancing from the previous ones?

They added a slight variation to the valve timing for a characteristic burble. I thought that was on the 2017 and onward models also but another member pointed out the camshaft part number is the same throughout so it had always been there. I don't think that is the cause of the vibration though. My EX does vibrate at those mid revs but not in a way that it bothers me but then I would not do a lot of motorway type riding either.

[PowerDubs_imp]

The engine itself is the same across all models other than color.

There have been a few versions of the intake part attached to the side of the airbox.

The exhaust is obviously had different versions and the ecu has had different versions.


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[VLJ_imp]

The '17 EX vibrates between 3,000-5,000. It's extremely smooth below 3,000, and smoother above 5,000 than it is between 3-5K. That's just how it is.

I would never describe its sixth gear, 75 mph cruising-speed buzzing as troublesome, however. I hate really nasty I4 buzz, and while this motor does buzz a bit, it's not to the level of being any sort of a problem at all. I rode plenty of 500+-mile days on the '17 EX, often droning away on the freeway, right in the heart of that 3-5 buzzy range, and it simply wasn't an issue.

The older I get, the more forums I read, the more I think that people wildly exaggerate issues with their bikes. If they notice something at all, anything at all, it immediately rises to the level of "hand numbing," "unrideable for more than a half hour," "a dealbreaker," etc. It's as if people forgot how motorcycles have always been, and how we as riders managed just fine on them before the advent of the internet, at which point everyone suddenly discovered that their bikes are beset with previously nonexistent problems.

Your bike is fine. Just ride it, get used to it, and enjoy it. If it's not actually malfunctioning, it's not a problem. It's a characteristic, and you'll learn to cope with it if you simply give yourself the chance.

[GoldOxide_imp]

The '17 EX vibrates between 3,000-5,000. It's extremely smooth below 3,000, and smoother above 5,000 than it is between 3-5K. That's just how it is.

I would never describe its sixth gear, 75 mph cruising-speed buzzing as troublesome, however. I hate really nasty I4 buzz, and while this motor does buzz a bit, it's not to the level of being any sort of a problem at all. I rode plenty of 500+-mile days on the '17 EX, often droning away on the freeway, right in the heart of that 3-5 buzzy range, and it simply wasn't an issue.

The older I get, the more forums I read, the more I think that people wildly exaggerate issues with their bikes. If they notice something at all, anything at all, it immediately rises to the level of "hand numbing," "unrideable for more than a half hour," "a dealbreaker," etc. It's as if people forgot how motorcycles have always been, and how we as riders managed just fine on them before the advent of the internet, at which point everyone suddenly discovered that their bikes are beset with previously nonexistent problems.

Your bike is fine. Just ride it, get used to it, and enjoy it. If it's not actually malfunctioning, it's not a problem. It's a characteristic, and you'll learn to cope with it if you simply give yourself the chance.

" ... get off the lawn!"

(For full-effect, say it while exhaling to the end of your current breath.)

[VLJ_imp]

The irony being that I'm quite a bit younger than the majority of the people here.

[peterbaron]

The irony being that I'm quite a bit younger than the majority of the people here.