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Maybe I am out of the norm too a bit because I do go to other motorcycle forums to learn about those models. I know about the cam chain tensioner issues on Yamaha FZ09 even though no magazine has mentioned it. BTW they also have a speed limiter that no magazines mention or Yamaha either for that matter. I know about the fuel strip issues on BMW R1200R's even though no magazine has mentioned it and I know about Ducati Multistrada engines self grenading even though no motorcycle magazines have mentioned it. Want to know anything about a particular bike, go to that models forum and see what the people that own them say about them. Really curious type " Problems or complaints with X model motorcycle, car or whatever" into google and all kinds of stuff will come up. Most of it will be linked to an owners forum. Just last night I was researching whether I could use a snow blade on my John Deer riding mower and found out if I do chances are my hydrostatic transmission will wear out prematurely. Magazines wouldn't tell me that, John Deer wouldn't tell me that, but dissatisfied owners that have tried it told me that. I was also curious which was the better quad, a Honda Rancher or a Yamaha Grizzly. Seems most prefer the Grizzly.
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Owner forums are a rich place for info. You find the complaints (every thing has its' issues) then you decide if those sort of issues are ones you can deal with or not. On really good bikes folks will complain about trivial stuff like the dumb silver side covers, lack of RLETS and such stuff. Some issues are quite serious but very infrequent, others, fairly common.
Unfortunately, on the ThumperTalk.com, the perfect thread for such failures was asked by a prospective owner about four years after I bought mine. So I was able to chime in and confirm all the annoying failures (and expensive) folks talked about - I had them all.
Not sure if it would have prevented me from buying it though.
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I see what you did there Rboe 
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(04-05-2015, 09:42 AM)ClassicVW_imp Wrote: (04-05-2015, 03:26 AM)uscgmac_imp Wrote: You can read and watch all the reviews you want and talk to whoever you want. Nobody was talking about or advertising that the bike has a speed limiter of 112mph. I've been riding for 26 years and had over 20 bikes and never heard of this so don't say shame on anyone. Your statements are as rediculous as the speed limiter. Not everyone has to be 60+ to want this bike, some wantitfor the cool Retro look and modern touches, expecting an 1100 to have some balls, not have the same capability of a 500cc bike. My riding capabilities far exceed the speed limiter.
Don't call my comment ridiculous. Watch your mouth. I guess my comment hit a nerve as you are one of those that didn't do enough research. I saw the limiter mentioned in more than one magazine and online review when I was doing my research. I have very little desire to do over 100 on a naked bike. I've done it on my faired BMWs so I'm not afraid to do so, I just don't like the feeling of being pushed off the rear of the seat while doing so.
(04-05-2015, 06:24 AM)uscgmac_imp Wrote: Yes you could join a forum and look through threads then maybe find a post about speed limiters but who ever really does that. If anything you would check the forum to see peoples reviews but might not particularly find something about a speed limiter unless you fall upon it so enough on the you should of known crap, that's rediculous. I also do NOT want a crotch rocket. Wasn't looking for a crotch rocket, all I'm saying is that a 2014 1100cc bike should not come with a speed limiter, the speed limiter should be my judgement and my wrist. I do love the bike and I will keep it and am more than satisfied with it. In the future I may consider the ecu mod after the warranty expires. I got the look and ride quality and comfort that I wanted, I just like to wind out my bikes on occasion and don't like that someone predetermined what my allowable Max speed should be undermining the true potential of the bike itself. Why would anyone want to do over 112? Well for me that is a very easy and obtainable speed to handle on highways. Its my perogative. I'm not hating the bike by any means just has that one quirk about it.
P.s. with the Puig windscreen, I have zero wind blast on my chest even at high speeds so i don't think I'll ever get blown off the bike, lol. Even without the screen that's just not going to happen, just tuck a little.
Also, I was just out riding before and want to say that the bike truly does have a great low end and middle end ratio. The bike has great performance with tourqe and pull in the mid range. Lots of fun in third and fourth around 4 to 5k rpms.
Ever hear of the saying- When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging?
The info about the rev limiter is out there and has been out there. Just because you didn't find it or notice doesn't make others ridiculous. More people than just me saw it mentioned. Whether we thought it a big deal and whether it remained at the forefront of our research memory is up to each individual.
Don't call my comment ridiculous. Watch your mouth. I guess my comment hit a nerve as you are one of those that didn't do enough research. I saw the limiter mentioned in more than one magazine and online review when I was doing my research. I have very little desire to do over 100 on a naked bike. I've done it on my faired BMWs so I'm not afraid to do so, I just don't like the feeling of being pushed off the rear of the seat while doing so.
(04-05-2015, 06:24 AM)uscgmac_imp Wrote: Yes you could join a forum and look through threads then maybe find a post about speed limiters but who ever really does that. If anything you would check the forum to see peoples reviews but might not particularly find something about a speed limiter unless you fall upon it so enough on the you should of known crap, that's rediculous. I also do NOT want a crotch rocket. Wasn't looking for a crotch rocket, all I'm saying is that a 2014 1100cc bike should not come with a speed limiter, the speed limiter should be my judgement and my wrist. I do love the bike and I will keep it and am more than satisfied with it. In the future I may consider the ecu mod after the warranty expires. I got the look and ride quality and comfort that I wanted, I just like to wind out my bikes on occasion and don't like that someone predetermined what my allowable Max speed should be undermining the true potential of the bike itself. Why would anyone want to do over 112? Well for me that is a very easy and obtainable speed to handle on highways. Its my perogative. I'm not hating the bike by any means just has that one quirk about it.
P.s. with the Puig windscreen, I have zero wind blast on my chest even at high speeds so i don't think I'll ever get blown off the bike, lol. Even without the screen that's just not going to happen, just tuck a little.
Also, I was just out riding before and want to say that the bike truly does have a great low end and middle end ratio. The bike has great performance with tourqe and pull in the mid range. Lots of fun in third and fourth around 4 to 5k rpms.
Ever hear of the saying- When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging?
The info about the rev limiter is out there and has been out there. Just because you didn't find it or notice doesn't make others ridiculous. More people than just me saw it mentioned. Whether we thought it a big deal and whether it remained at the forefront of our research memory is up to each individual. First off I believe I struck a cord in you, not the other way around, secondly my opinion is my opinion so don't ask me to watch anything and third off if you actually paid attention to anything I said you would have accepted it and moved on. I don't believe people go around researching if bikes have speed limiters so go read all your magazines and enjoy. Also if everyone else would actually take the time to understand the statements in place they would understand that I am very pleased with the motor just not the way the ecu is programed. The ecu is not part of the motor for those of you who commented about that. You are actually the one who sounds like your talking yourself into trying to like your own bike and not sure if you really do. Discussing this is like talking to a mule. Done with this. Oh by the way do I have to type a disclaimer that all speed trials were conducted on a closed coarse circuit by a professional rider so the forum police don't come running!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!  
I agree that lots of research can be done on anything, very true and you now what, everyone is right. I am the one responsable to know what I am buying so yes I should have known. My fault, I just don't see it being something that lots of people will pick up on being I wouldn't have even thought of a bike having a speed limiter let alone a very low one. So yes my fault for all the nit pickers out there. I did say I still love the bike, o.k. Sorry to all, just don't like when people try undermining my statements, I give it right back.
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(04-05-2015, 08:38 AM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Since the limiter was in place for the original home market I strongly suspect, given the focus of the bike, they decided to just leave it in place for all markets. After all, 112 mph will earn a trip to jail in many counties in Arizona - perhaps in other states as well. It's called criminal speeding. No mater what your opinion of the matter is, legally speaking, going that fast is just plain illegal and illegal activities, on an open forum, - well it's just bad form to encourage.
The fuel line and fuel filter swelling on Moto Guzzi tanks I believe has been addressed for sometime. I can't recall the last time it came up in the forum. Gas tank swelling of the plastic tanks is still a bit of an issue; Ducati seems to be suffering the worst of it (I think in Europe just about everyone gets their tanks from Acerbis, so hopefully they can sort that out). So far, the biggest complaint is the so called quick disconnect for the fuel line. I think it's more of a lack of knowledge on how to work it than a problem engineering wise. Although one could make the argument that if a shade tree mechanic can't noodle it out they did it wrong. 
I used to 6-2, with a 36" inseam and found the V7 to be too small for me. The CB, with lowered pegs and a raised seat (same thing I did with the Griso) is a much better fit. So the V7 may not be a prime choice in that regard. A test ride should help with that. Some people fold up better than others. I think I could have rode it just fine, but in the grand scheme of things I pulled the trigger on the CB instead. I think a need for some diversity in the herd (as well as a bunch of other reasons) pushed me away from another V twin. Although at one point I had three Honda's!
A couple of years ago I was looking at used Super Dukes and XR1200's which both had fuel tank swelling issues. I didn't consider the KTM any further. I believe the Harley issue was mostly cosmetic.
The XR1200 is a retro bike that hasn't come up yet. What a cool bike. Similar in some ways to the ZRX - correct look, up to date suspension. It's a shame the Harley crowd won't support anything other than a two-wheeled jukebox.
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I had an 09 XR1200. In 2010 they upgraded the suspension and blacked out the motor. It was a nice bike. The swelling of the tank was mainly in Europe due to some bad fuel issues. I never had that problem. The bike was nice, had it for a little bit and moved on.
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Oooh, the XR1200 is an excellent bike. A buddy in Slovenia has one and loves it. Sadly, sold like old sardines on a hot day over here.
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(04-05-2015, 12:57 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Oooh, the XR1200 is an excellent bike. A buddy in Slovenia has one and loves it. Sadly, sold like old sardines on a hot day over here.
When it comes to the 'standards don't sell in the US' debate THAT is the bike that stumps me. What a cool little bike with modern performance. The AMA even gave it its own class to race in.
Identifying the problem with Japanese bikes is easy - they're typically parts bin specials. Even so they can be lovable and sell if the price is right, like the Bandit and first SV650. There are bikes with good performance, like the 3rd genration Z1000, but don't sell because the look is just off. Way off as in the case of the Z1000.
But with the XR1200, that bike should have sold. The timing had to have hurt it - released right when the economy took a dump.
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I think this is more of a Honda issue than a CB1100 issue. Honda has taken a very conservative stance over the last few years in terms of outright performance and specs. CB11, CTX1300, The NT700, updated VFR, CBF 500. All of them have relatively unimpressive power figures and spec sheets, and none of them lead their market peers in outright performance. Additionally, they are all priced at a premium level, and heavily discounted when they wallow in dealerships, (or in some cases discontinued or model years skipped).
Great products, beautifully built, adequate performance, premium price, cheap as chips after discounts or on the second hand market. Makes it bad for magazine comparison tests and good for those of us who like the bikes and don't necessarily care about top speed or comparisons.
That being said, Honda should have done what every manufacturer has done with virtually every model they sell overseas, and remove the restrictor, IMHO.
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I agree Capo, I don't think it should have been on there for us to begin with, and many of us who bought the CB 1100 in late 2012 early 2013 DID NOT know about the restrictions. There was simply no info available at the time. I can't remember how we discovered it, but I think it was a magazine article. (*** EDIT.. I googled "Speed restriction on Honda CB 1100" and right there at the top was the 2013 Cycle World road test where it was mentioned) and then some members (I believe Flynrider was the first) tried to exceed the 112 and couldn't and we discussed it at length. It was also discussed on the UK board. I would think it's common knowledge now.
Many of the new FZ-09 owners were also surprised to find their bikes were restricted (a little higher speed than ours) but they were not happy about it either,
from FZ-09 forums:
FozzyBoy
10-21-2013, 05:40 PM
I'm test riding an FZ09 next Monday and am seriously interested in one. I may wait for the ABS model.
One thing is concerning me is that I have read in a couple of road tests that the top speed has been governed to 132MPH, yes I know it is way more than the legal limit, but if I buy a bike I want the prerogative of having all the performance of the bike available, Does anyone out there have any news / info on this. 
Sound familiar? lol
.... but once again buy a ZRX14 or a BMW S1000RR or a Tuono V4 and they are also restricted, just at a higher speed than ours.
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