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Touring: CB1100 vs. F800GT
#51
One of the big reasons I bought a Moto Guzzi when I got back into riding; I wanted a unique bike that would be seen everywhere. Which was very true of the Quota. Now that I have a Griso; well in Phoenix we seem to have a hot bed of Griso's here and I've seen as many as four or five at Sunday coffee.

It's the dang CB1100 that is like hens teeth around here. I've only seen a couple in the wild. Smile

Better grab one while you can.......... Big Grin
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#52
(04-23-2015, 05:49 AM)EmptySea_imp Wrote: Cool...Now go get one ASAP and let me know if you're going to be anywhere near St. Charles, Mo, Springfield, MO, Harrison, AR, or Eureka Springs, AR on your trip and we can get a photo of "two non-touring" touring bikes together. We're also stopping at Niehaus Cycle Sales, Litchfield, IL on the afternoon of the 13th for lunch, I think, and to just stretch our legs in a motorcycle-friendly environment.

Smile

Ha, ha! OK! Thumbs Up

We leave Northern Kentucky early on June 16 and overnight on the south end of Land Between the Lakes in Dover, TN. We arrive in Arkansas the evening of June 17. We'll have a base cabin in Mountain View and we will be hitting Eureka Springs on June 18 and Hot Springs Village on June 19. Then we hit the road back to Northern Kentucky early on June 20 and overnight near Bay City, IL north of Paducah.
(04-23-2015, 08:55 AM)Rboe_imp Wrote: One of the big reasons I bought a Moto Guzzi when I got back into riding; I wanted a unique bike that would be seen everywhere. Which was very true of the Quota. Now that I have a Griso; well in Phoenix we seem to have a hot bed of Griso's here and I've seen as many as four or five at Sunday coffee.

It's the dang CB1100 that is like hens teeth around here. I've only seen a couple in the wild. Smile

Better grab one while you can.......... Big Grin

I like that. Cool
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#53
Sounds like youve got a great trip planned and also looks like our paths will not likely cross. Ya never know, though, and your Arai lid is pretty easy to spot. LOL
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#54
(04-23-2015, 11:59 AM)EmptySea_imp Wrote: Sounds like youve got a great trip planned and also looks like our paths will not likely cross. Ya never know, though, and your Arai lid is pretty easy to spot. LOL

Yeah, the hi-viz is part of my "spousal acceptance of riding agreement." Tongue

When I walk into a restaurant on a ride, sometimes an HD "pirate" will say stuff like "You're hard to miss!" or "They'll see you comin'!"

I always respond, "Well, I'm a motorcyclist. I need to be seen in order to stay alive."

This is usually met with a blank stare of non-comprehension.
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#55
Stich,

This is what makes this forum special, image just being interested in the CB1100 going to 6 pages in a few days. I think at this point you would almost feel guilty not buying one Big Grin
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#56
F800GT Test Ride Report

So, I had made an appointment for a test ride earlier in the week. I was going to cancel it, but when I woke up this morning I decided to go ahead and take the test ride in the interest of being completely informed about the character of both bikes.

I live in Northern Kentucky in the Greater Cincinnati area. The closest BMW dealer is in Louisville, about an hour and a half ride on the interstate. I decided to ride my CR250R on the interstate to get fully soaked in that experience, in hopes of getting the chance to test the F800GT on the interstate.

On the way down on the 250, I made up my mind to ride the speed limit of 70 mph, only going to 75 mph to overtake slower vehicles. It made a big difference; it's still not fun to ride the 250 at those speeds but it is not nearly as fatigue-inducing as 80-85 mph.

Louisville turned out to be a construction hell zone at this time of year. I got stuck in the wrong lane and ended up crossing the bridge to Indiana by mistake. Bad move…there was a massive jam-up at the on ramp to go back south over the bridge. It took me 30 minutes to get back to Kentucky, a distance of about one mile. Strike One BMW: it would be necessary to trailer the bike to - and through - Louisville every time I needed to leave it for service.

Anyway, I had time to eat so I stopped for lunch. Struck up a conversation with a guy who used to ride a 919. He was absolutely fascinated by my 250.

At the dealer, which oddly enough is a joint HD/BMW operation, I met the sales guy and we looked over the bike. I asked about the low seat and ultra-low seat options. He said he would not recommend them as they are very thin and uncomfortable. He said it would be best to send the seat to a custom shop to have comfortable low cushioning installed. Strike Two BMW. I sat on the bike. Rather wide at the front. I could just put my toes down, not the balls of my feet. Custom seat would be needed eventually.

He told me all about the lean-angle-sensing traction control that prevents over-throttle low sides in corners. "With traction control engaged - I don't care how far you're leaned over - you can nail the throttle and you will not low side. The only way you could low side is if you struck a huge patch of gravel."

I asked about warranty. Three years comprehensive. Extended warranty? Not from BMW. Strike Three BMW.

For the actual test ride, the salesman donned a bucket helmet and threw a leg over some kind of HD cruiser (they all look alike to me Tongue). I followed him around the block and up onto the interstate. First impression of the F800GT is how good the ride quality is. I'm not picky about ride quality but the bike felt really smooth and tight, and absorbed the bumps in the streets completely. The power was of course much more than I am accustomed to, but that engine is…odd. It is very quiet. I had a hard time hearing the revs and had to check the tachometer often. When you twist the throttle hard, the engine emits an unusual vertically vibrating sensation, not unlike a mobile phone set to vibrate. So you actually sense the revs more by the feeling of the vibration than by the sound of the engine.

The front brake is a monster. I was giving it too much pressure at first and resorted to two fingers because my muscle memory could not unlearn my habit in 20 minutes.

The wind protection was decent. Due to traffic, we only got up to 70 mph briefly a couple of times, so it was hard to form an opinion. I only remember everything seemed smoother and quieter at speed than my 250, and I'm sure that 90% of the effect was because the engine was not screaming.

I would need to put the one inch factory bar risers on it, because the reach was a little too far and I was leaning forward too much. Also the factory bars are very wide. I felt like they were too wide and that narrower bars would be better.

On the way back we got caught in more crawling stop-and-go Louisville traffic. It didn't take long until I noticed a substantial amount of heat coming out of the engine and warming my inside legs above the knees. I could imagine it getting pretty darned hot in the summer.

I didn't get to ride any twisties but I could easily tell that the bike is highly agile. Overall it feels as agile as my 250. In fact, in many ways it feels like a bigger, faster, smoother version of my bike. However it definitely has less engine character than my thumper. I could not see adding it as a second bike to my 250; it would be a bike that replaced my 250 because there is so much mission overlap.

The more I think about the F800GT, the more I think it is a bike I would like to rent but not own. If I wanted to take a long European tour or a cross-country trip in the US, it would be my first choice as a rental for the trip. But considering the purchase price, the inconvenient (for me) dealer location, the possibly high cost of scheduled maintenance, the complexity of the electronic systems and the risk of high repair cost once out of warranty…it all adds up to a bike that could become more of a headache than a pleasure to own.
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#57
Stich, we must live pretty close, I live just east of Cinti about 30 miles. Anyhow my son got his Ducati from right next door to the Harley/Beemer place, and yes, a total pia to trailer back and forth for service.

BTW if you need a test ride on a CB might I suggest a trip to Beechmont Motorsports just off I 275 at the St Rt 125 exit. Good guys I've bought a bunch of bikes there.
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#58
Front brake on the CB is very very good. Better than my Griso. Never rode the F800GT so I can't compare. The CB will put out some heat in stop and go traffic, but in general it has to be very hot in Phoenix for me to notice it. The Griso is much worse in that regard. The 650L is not a problem. Smile

Had to raise the bars on the 650L and the Griso, but not the CB (yet). Custom seats needed all around. Smile

I'll be keen to hear your impression of the CB once you ride it.
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#59
(04-24-2015, 10:18 AM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Front brake on the CB is very very good. Better than my Griso. Never rode the F800GT so I can't compare. The CB will put out some heat in stop and go traffic, but in general it has to be very hot in Phoenix for me to notice it. The Griso is much worse in that regard. The 650L is not a problem. Smile

Had to raise the bars on the 650L and the Griso, but not the CB (yet). Custom seats needed all around. Smile

I'll be keen to hear your impression of the CB once you ride it.

The F800GT front brake is amazing. I could not believe the light pressure combined with very efficient deceleration. I never even went anywhere near the limits but that brake was impressive to say the least. I rode the CB1100 in [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5596]Germany last year. I don't remember any impression that the brake was a beast, but it seemed up to the job for sure.

If you've ever driven a German-spec'd car in Germany, you will understand that they take their brakes very seriously. With the autobahn, that is an absolute "must." For many years, you never saw Japanese cars in Germany because the brakes just couldn't cut it. That seems to be changing these days.
(04-24-2015, 10:09 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Stich, we must live pretty close, I live just east of Cinti about 30 miles. Anyhow my son got his Ducati from right next door to the Harley/Beemer place, and yes, a total pia to trailer back and forth for service.

BTW if you need a test ride on a CB might I suggest a trip to Beechmont Motorsports just off I 275 at the St Rt 125 exit. Good guys I've bought a bunch of bikes there.

Wow that's a good tip about Beechmont. I have never been there. Our little Florence dealer is "OK" to work on my CBR250R but these days they are doing a lot of quad repairs so the shop is full of mud dust. I dropped off my bike there for its 16k valve clearance inspection - all cleaned up and looking good - as a courtesy to the mechanic and to leave the impression that it is a cared-for bike. It came back covered in brown dust and with a boogered up timing inspection port cover. I have been thinking of switching to Maysville but maybe Beechmont is the better option.

Recently I've become aware of a humble little shop south of Walton, Kentucky called South 25 Cycle. The owner, Nate, seems to be a carbureted Honda guru. My buddy bought a '94 VFR750 from Arizona and it turned out the carbs were completely gummed up. This guy in Walton got it running like a Swiss watch on nitro. Big Grin

So...used 2014 CB1100 DLX models for sale seem to be non-existent. In Ohio, Honda of Marysville seems to be the most aggressive on price (that's where I got my CBR250R).
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#60
Stitch,

John has a 2014 DLX he was willing to let go for 10K out the door. I spoke with him last week. Shipping would be about 550.00 This includes all rebates.
http://www.newenglandcycleworks.com/

I though it was a great deal, was thinking of a trade on my 2013, he wanted $4600 and my bike. Test ride one, if you like it here's a deal.
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