What motorcycle would you buy next?

[GoldOxide_imp]

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!: https://www.rideapart.com/news/629711/ho...al-render/

Gone, THIS IS A GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I get it, I'll let you ride it first!

Gone, THIS IS A GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I get it, I'll let you ride it first!
I somehow doubt this will make it to the U.S. But, if it did, it might be a buy now and ask for forgiveness sort of thing with the Mrs.

Gone, THIS IS A GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I get it, I'll let you ride it first!
I somehow doubt this will make it to the U.S. But, if it did, it might be a buy now and ask for forgiveness sort of thing with the Mrs.
On Monday, weather permitting, I am riding to my Honda dealer for both tires replacement with Angel GT and while waiting for the service to be completed, I'll chat with the owner or sales about the Hawk1100 and GB750, but I know, they are always lip tight

You should be able to get them to talk.

You may determine that the info you learn is not helpful because it is not helpful to them.

Honda Canada really sucks.

You should be able to get them to talk.

You may determine that the info you learn is not helpful because it is not helpful to them.

Honda Canada really sucks.
I would send them an email but if new models are yet a secret, a verbal conversation would be much safer for them than stating it in writing, I guess.

Yes, you have to have a face-to-face conversion with a genuine Honda representative - more senior experienced is preferred to get the best experience.

In general though, Honda Canada just simply bends over to corporate Honda Japan and it doesn't matter what Canada asks, Japan will determine what Canada deserves.

Yes, you have to have a face-to-face conversion with a genuine Honda representative - more senior experienced is preferred to get the best experience.

In general though, Honda Canada just simply bends over to corporate Honda Japan and it doesn't matter what Canada asks, Japan will determine what Canada deserves.
Yeah, we got the CB1100 in 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, so is really Canada's turn to get both, first the GB750 and soon after the Hawk1100
JAPAN, CAN you HEAR me!!!

Honda Powersports Canada showrooms are getting less and less showcase real estate.

It is really sad.

I have a friend in Germany who told me that a similar thing is happening in Central Western Europe. It doesn't seem to be a top down management decision from Japan, rather local dealer networks feel they do not get enough, valuable support from Honda and they move to BMW and others - resp. give less floor-space to Hondas, and more to other bikes. A slow process which should make Japan think again.

Yes. For maybe over the past decade, Honda Japan Marketing seems to have almost forgotten how to approach the North American motorcycle shopper.

It appears then not just the North American market.

[1985CB450_imp]

Yea- it's a racket.

When I bought my new Aprilia a couple months ago- signed all the paperwork and got on the bike to ride away...

I hit the starter, gave the throttle a little blip to hear the bike for the first time- and the right mirror spun around...it was completely loose, not even hand tight.

I shut the bike off, got off it...the salesman turned and looked at me. I pointed to the mirror- he made a face, walked into the back and came back out with a wrench.

Classic lack of attention to detail

My recent purchase was at a dealer 60 miles away so I ubered over with just my riding gear and didn’t want to carry a bulky tire pressure gauge. Upon arriving and looking over the bike I asked the sales guy if tire pressures were checked and he said he would check. Then when going over the bike with maintenance I asked again to please verify tire pressure as I was about to ride 60 miles home on a new bike.

Imagine my surprise when I got home and found 30 F and 34 R when they should have been 36/42, no one got hurt and the pressures were not that far off but they could have been as obviously no one checked.

Different dealer in Denton TX did the 600 mile maintenance on my new 2018 R9T, I brought it to the dealer for warranty purposes as it was new. As soon as I got it home I swapped out the stock exhaust for the Remus/SC Project exhaust I already had purchased. Imagine my surprise when I found the stock exhaust canister only hand tight and one of the mid pipe clamps missing it’s hardware and another loose.

I understand it’s a cut throat market and margins may be slim but a little extra attention to detail sure goes a long way

[pdedse]

my local dealer isn't allowed to touch my bikes when i get them. they know i want them in the crate or fresh out. Im dead serious. I've bought 6 from the local place directly, and been involved in a few other deals. they also don't charge me for setup/prep.

a suggestion i would make when buying new: when they wheel it out, before you sign it, make a tech or salesman test ride it in front of you.

Sounds interesting. How do you get bikes home...in the crate? Loading / unloading? How long does it take you to do the setup on average?

[GoldOxide_imp]

my local dealer isn't allowed to touch my bikes when i get them. they know i want them in the crate or fresh out. Im dead serious. I've bought 6 from the local place directly, and been involved in a few other deals. they also don't charge me for setup/prep.

a suggestion i would make when buying new: when they wheel it out, before you sign it, make a tech or salesman test ride it in front of you.

Hmmm, I think my local dealership would shooo me away if I demanded unopened crate delivery. - lol

I always test ride purchase prior to final signing. Local dealers has never pushed back on that. I have never found an anomaly, thankfully.

[Gone in 60]

Had an interesting view of uncrating at the Royal Enfield dealership this weekend. The prep area is in an open shed that's visible if you're poking around behind their shop. Lots of bubble wrap and cardboard around the exhaust pipes and whatever else would be close to the edges of what I assume is a large box that they'd come in. Plus, formed rubber guards around ends of fenders and other spots that could have other parts touching or rubbing. But for the most part, it looked like the bikes were pretty complete coming out of the box. I'm sure there's lots of other things that need to be done to prep a bike that was shipped from India. Talking with the salesman, he pointed out that yes, they need to charge an assembly fee, but what sets them apart is not charging an "administration fee" on top, which apparently the other RE dealer in the area does. He said that the lack of that last miscellaneous fee steers quite a bit of business his way, especially when buyers are cross-shopping both dealerships.

[Ollie]

It was maybe 7 years back when a friend who was interested in Honda's DCT found a new, 2 year leftover NC700X DCT at a dealer near State College, PA. so he drove there to look it over. Needless to say it was heavily discounted and they really wanted to sell the thing. He asked about test riding it to see if he liked the DCT before buying. They said their insurance didn't permit test rides but they would bend the rule and let him ride it around the parking area. He donned his helmet while they rolled it out and went over the DCT shifting procedure. He said when he drove it around the thing would barely turn, he had to stop to make a 3-point turn at one point. When the salesman asked how he liked the transmission he said "it is fine but the bike is horrible to ride, could the tire pressure be low"? Salesman yelled for the kid to bring a gauge out and checking the rear tire it it didn't even register. He said get another gauge this one isn't working. A mechanic came out with his gauge and it showed the same, both tires were completely flat! LOL if I were an insurance company I wouldn't want to cover them for test rides either!
After puffing them up he said he took it around the lot again and it handled wonderfully so he bought it and loaded it in his trailer.

[GoldOxide_imp]

It was maybe 7 years back when a friend who was interested in Honda's DCT found a new, 2 year leftover NC700X DCT at a dealer near State College, PA. so he drove there to look it over. Needless to say it was heavily discounted and they really wanted to sell the thing. He asked about test riding it to see if he liked the DCT before buying. They said their insurance didn't permit test rides but they would bend the rule and let him ride it around the parking area. He donned his helmet while they rolled it out and went over the DCT shifting procedure. He said when he drove it around the thing would barely turn, he had to stop to make a 3-point turn at one point. When the salesman asked how he liked the transmission he said "it is fine but the bike is horrible to ride, could the tire pressure be low"? Salesman yelled for the kid to bring a gauge out and checking the rear tire it it didn't even register. He said get another gauge this one isn't working. A mechanic came out with his gauge and it showed the same, both tires were completely flat! LOL if I were an insurance company I wouldn't want to cover them for test rides either!
After puffing them up he said he took it around the lot again and it handled wonderfully so he bought it and loaded it in his trailer.

[KiowaEagle_imp]

It was maybe 7 years back when a friend who was interested in Honda's DCT found a new, 2 year leftover NC700X DCT at a dealer near State College, PA. so he drove there to look it over. Needless to say it was heavily discounted and they really wanted to sell the thing. He asked about test riding it to see if he liked the DCT before buying. They said their insurance didn't permit test rides but they would bend the rule and let him ride it around the parking area. He donned his helmet while they rolled it out and went over the DCT shifting procedure. He said when he drove it around the thing would barely turn, he had to stop to make a 3-point turn at one point. When the salesman asked how he liked the transmission he said "it is fine but the bike is horrible to ride, could the tire pressure be low"? Salesman yelled for the kid to bring a gauge out and checking the rear tire it it didn't even register. He said get another gauge this one isn't working. A mechanic came out with his gauge and it showed the same, both tires were completely flat! LOL if I were an insurance company I wouldn't want to cover them for test rides either!
After puffing them up he said he took it around the lot again and it handled wonderfully so he bought it and loaded it in his trailer.

Such a simple and necessary thing. I check my tires before I ride if it's been a week or two whether I've ridden or not. It's amazing these dealers don't.

And yes I check my tires as soon as I've gotten home from buying a bike or had tires changed. They're nearly always out of spec. When I bought my concourse I had a 3 hour ride home and I noticed I could feel every bump. I checked the pressures when I got home. The spec is 42 for both front and rear, they were both nearly 50.

[Ollie]

Yep. I bought a 2015 California this Summer. The seller actually told me to test ride it but I didn't have my helmet and it started and ran fine so I declined. But after paying him then riding it around the drive up my trailer ramp I could feel that it was hard to steer and was second guessing myself, hoping it was low tires not stiff head bearings. When I got home and checked sure enough 15F 19R. I can't recall the psi on the CB1100 I bought a year ago but it was about the same.

[the Ferret]

It was maybe 7 years back when a friend who was interested in Honda's DCT found a new, 2 year leftover NC700X DCT at a dealer near State College, PA. so he drove there to look it over. Needless to say it was heavily discounted and they really wanted to sell the thing. He asked about test riding it to see if he liked the DCT before buying. They said their insurance didn't permit test rides but they would bend the rule and let him ride it around the parking area. He donned his helmet while they rolled it out and went over the DCT shifting procedure. He said when he drove it around the thing would barely turn, he had to stop to make a 3-point turn at one point. When the salesman asked how he liked the transmission he said "it is fine but the bike is horrible to ride, could the tire pressure be low"? Salesman yelled for the kid to bring a gauge out and checking the rear tire it it didn't even register. He said get another gauge this one isn't working. A mechanic came out with his gauge and it showed the same, both tires were completely flat! LOL if I were an insurance company I wouldn't want to cover them for test rides either!
After puffing them up he said he took it around the lot again and it handled wonderfully so he bought it and loaded it in his trailer.

Such a simple and necessary thing. I check my tires before I ride if it's been a week or two whether I've ridden or not. It's amazing these dealers don't.

And yes I check my tires as soon as I've gotten home from buying a bike or had tires changed. They're nearly always out of spec. When I bought my concourse I had a 3 hour ride home and I noticed I could feel every bump. I checked the pressures when I got home. The spec is 42 for both front and rear, they were both nearly 50.

Such a simple and necessary thing. I check my tires before I ride if it's been a week or two whether I've ridden or not. It's amazing these dealers don't.

And yes I check my tires as soon as I've gotten home from buying a bike or had tires changed. They're nearly always out of spec. When I bought my concourse I had a 3 hour ride home and I noticed I could feel every bump. I checked the pressures when I got home. The spec is 42 for both front and rear, they were both nearly 50.
Of course tire pressure go up with heat from riding so if you are going to check them check them COLD before riding, or wait 3 or 4 hours until they cool down.