Sayonara to the CB1100, with an exit interview.

[Capo]

I don't find the issue to be 'crapping on' the CB. These are legitimate discussions with varying points of view regarding the bike, it's positives and negatives, and it's success in the market. By owners. Don't get butt hurt over it.

Let's look at it from a different viewpoint. This topic and others like it are, by far, the most popular ones on the board as of late. Where are all the tech, performance, modification and bike- centric topics and posts in this forum? Kinda slim lately. Maybe you can only talk about Road Comets and seats just so much. Or count spokes.

This is a single- model forum with a modest number of regular posters, for a bike that is pretty straight forward and less- than -diverse in its model range. With forum rules that encourage a laser focus on the CB. In that context, one should expect some heat once in a while.


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[Rolls_imp]

I've seen most of y'all's pictures...not sure if we should be discussing weight at all.

How did I ever miss this gem? Hilarious.

(And look, I *told* ya, I'm gonna lose that 30 pounds!)

[Stichill_imp]

We had a guy on the F800GT forum two years ago who had been a very loyal and enthusiastic owner but got a wild hair and traded his BMW for a Triumph 800XC on a whim. From that point forward, his posts became increasingly derogatory, critical, and argumentative, all in favor of his new-found bike. He continued with his trolling and tirades for about a month before he was finally ignored and he stomped off. Too bad too, because until he bought the Triumph, he was a respected contributor and offered valuable experiences and insights. Very strange, and unfortunate. What is it with motorcycle forums?

Rationalization is a powerful human drive. We never want to admit we made a mistake, e.g. buying a bike that we ended up not liking, so we blame everything but ourselves for either a) not understanding our own needs and preferences or b) not fully vetting the bike to determine if it would meet our expectations.

Rather than admit those two things, many people will go to great lengths to deceive themselves, and one of their tools of self-deception is to engage in efforts to convince others of a view that they themselves don't fully accept.

[the Ferret]

If it is a legitmate discussion, and you truly believe your points are valid, why delete them? because your opinions are unpopular?

He certainly was opinionated, but then again so am I (but I probably don't have to tell you all that). If you believe in what you are saying, popular or not, stand behind your words.

That said, the posts are gone, we have no way of retrieving them, and I have a feeling it will cause some changes to at least one way that the forum is run in the future.

[Rolls_imp]

I guess the important thing is we don't lose sight of really super brilliant ideas that come out of civil discourse, like this one from an amicable, but very insightful poster...

While I'd like the CB1100 (or almost any bike) to be 50 pounds lighter, I think it's a stretch to assert that lowering the weight by 50 pounds would have made a lot more sales. I do believe your other assertion, that sales would be higher if the price was $1000 lower. Can't support either with data, though.

I like the CB1100 how it is. I know I pay a premium for what I consider the benefits of an aircooled in-line 4, and I'm good with that. I like it as an 1100, too. I think it's actually a nicely compact package for its displacement.

What the CB could really use, though, is at least one other family member, say a 650-900cc version with a slightly lower seat height and 40-60 or so pounds less weight. This, I'm confident, would bring more sales, as I know of people who couldn't resist the CBs siren song, but wanted it in a slightly smaller size. Also, this big brother, littler brother (smaller displacement, weight, size) approach worked well in the CB 4-cyl hierarchy of old, and it works well for Triumph twins now.

[noroomtomove]

I'm happy with my 2011 CB1100.

Hope you find what your looking for.

What a ride.

Regards

[the Ferret]

Had a really weird dream about bowling balls last night that really mirrored this thread. Someday, maybe at the rally, I will tell y'all about it. I can tell you this, it was funny and we were all being lectured about why we made a mistake buying black 16 pound bowling balls instead of white and green 14 pound balls, or the red and white 10 pound balls. Cracked me up.

[Capo]

Had a really weird dream about bowling balls last night that really mirrored this thread. Someday, maybe at the rally, I will tell y'all about it. I can tell you this, it was funny and we were all being lectured about why we made a mistake buying black 16 pound bowling balls instead of white and green 14 pound balls, or the red and white 10 pound balls. Cracked me up.

This makes me want to watch The Big Lebowski yet again!


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[Cormanus]

I don't find the issue to be 'crapping on' the CB. These are legitimate discussions with varying points of view regarding the bike, it's positives and negatives, and it's success in the market. By owners. Don't get butt hurt over it.

Let's look at it from a different viewpoint. This topic and others like it are, by far, the most popular ones on the board as of late. Where are all the tech, performance, modification and bike- centric topics and posts in this forum? Kinda slim lately. Maybe you can only talk about Road Comets and seats just so much. Or count spokes.

This is a single- model forum with a modest number of regular posters, for a bike that is pretty straight forward and less- than -diverse in its model range. With forum rules that encourage a laser focus on the CB. In that context, one should expect some heat once in a while.


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Quite right. Ulvetanna had some views about the CB1100 and he expressed them forcefully. Good for him. No one here has to agree with him, although some agreed with some of his points. He wasn't 'crapping on the bike'; rather he pointed to some things he didn't like about it.

I'm sorry his posts are gone. They formed a record of a generally interesting conversation which none of us ought to be afraid to have. We each know why we like the bike. Right?

[curlyjoe_imp]

To be accurate , the Street Cup is 440 lbs DRY weight. Add about 35 lbs for 3.2 gallons of gas (19.84 lbs), a gallon of oil (7.2 lbs) and a gallon (a guess) of 50% ethylene glycol (8 lbs). Now we are up to 475 lbs.