Tires: Pirelli Angel GT vs Bridgestone BT54

[sourdough44_imp]

Maybe not as bad as 1.5 years ago, but availability factors in. I got some new Bridgestones this Spring through a dealership, kinda limited availability with those & other brands.

[Yata-Garasu_imp]

well, to be honest I got more miles than either the CB or the NC on my ST 1300 and FJR. The NC, ST and FJR all had 17" wheels.

Tire mileage s a common complaint on the NC board.

The FJR 1300 is a bike that I still hope to own someday. Which generation do you have?

I ended up getting an ST1300 thinking it would scratch the itch. but I came away disappointed... My 2009 St1300 had a lot of design-oriented mechanical issues, eg., windscreen, brakes, head gasket, etc. It bugged me that the ST1300 required premium fuel too, and still couldn't keep up with the FJR!

[the Ferret]

I had a 2006 ST 1300 bought new as a left over in 2008. Wife and I rode it all over country. Put 110,000 miles on it. In that time I had 2 issues. A thermostat went bad which didnt cause any issues, and a failed Secondary Master Cylinder which locked up the rear wheel while my wife and I were riding, giving us quite the scare. Both are known ST issues. So I sold it, as is, and bought a 2018 FJR new. It was subject to the second gear recall in which the whole motor had to come out of frame and taken apart. I had put about 38,500 miles on it, and had no other issues but in 2020 due to medical issues which prevented her from mounting and dismounting, my wife decided she no longer wanted to ride two up and I didnt think I needed 630 pounds and 145 hp for solo local rides,.Traded the FJR in on an NC 750x dct that I have put 30,000 miles on. I have also put almost 71,000 miles on my CB 1100. I go thru a lot of tires lol.

As far as comparing the ST 1300 and FJR 1300, you sat IN the ST and ON the FJR. The STs windshield was better. The FJR was lighter by about 80 pounds, had ammenties like cruise control, heated grips, ABS, TC, and looked better with the bags off. The ST was slightly smoother.The ST held more gas, but like you said required premium, whereas the FJR used regular. Gas mileage was about the same at 40- 45 mpg, but range was longer on the ST. Both were boats to hand push around in the garage or driveway, but neither felt heavy once under power, and the weight made them stable at speed.I liked them both. Both were great for fast, long days in the saddle, especially 2 up with gear, but overkill for solo rides on secondary roads at 45-60 mph.

My NC 750 shines in that area, while weighing under 500 pounds and averaging 75 mpg on regular. A pleasure to push around in the garage. I wish the NC had cruise control, and unfortunately Go-Cruise doesnt get it lol. I added heated grips and a bigger shield for better wind protection while travelling, and between the frunk and a tailbag I can carry everything I need for an unlimited time on the road. Although it will travel at freeway speeds I don't feel that's a good all day element for it.

If I were considering lots of cross country travel with lots of high speed freeway involved I would choose the FJR.

[Yata-Garasu_imp]

I had a 2006 ST 1300 bought new as a left over in 2008. Wife and I rode it all over country. Put 110,000 miles on it. In that time I had 2 issues. A thermostat went bad which didnt cause any issues, and a failed Secondary Master Cylinder which locked up the rear wheel while my wife and I were riding, giving us quite the scare. Both are known ST issues. So I sold it, as is, and bought a 2018 FJR new. It was subject to the second gear recall in which the whole motor had to come out of frame and taken apart. I had put about 38,500 miles on it, and had no other issues but in 2020 due to medical issues which prevented her from mounting and dismounting, my wife decided she no longer wanted to ride two up and I didnt think I needed 630 pounds and 145 hp for solo local rides,.Traded the FJR in on an NC 750x dct that I have put 30,000 miles on. I have also put almost 71,000 miles on my CB 1100. I go thru a lot of tires lol.

As far as comparing the ST 1300 and FJR 1300, you sat IN the ST and ON the FJR. The STs windshield was better. The FJR was lighter by about 80 pounds, had ammenties like cruise control, heated grips, ABS, TC, and looked better with the bags off. The ST was slightly smoother.The ST held more gas, but like you said required premium, whereas the FJR used regular. Gas mileage was about the same at 40- 45 mpg, but range was longer on the ST. Both were boats to hand push around in the garage or driveway, but neither felt heavy once under power, and the weight made them stable at speed.I liked them both. Both were great for fast, long days in the saddle, especially 2 up with gear, but overkill for solo rides on secondary roads at 45-60 mph.

My NC 750 shines in that area, while weighing under 500 pounds and averaging 75 mpg on regular. A pleasure to push around in the garage. I wish the NC had cruise control, and unfortunately Go-Cruise doesnt get it lol. I added heated grips and a bigger shield for better wind protection while travelling, and between the frunk and a tailbag I can carry everything I need for an unlimited time on the road. Although it will travel at freeway speeds I don't feel that's a good all day element for it.

If I were considering lots of cross country travel with lots of high speed freeway involved I would choose the FJR.

Yeah, the ST1300 secondary master cylinder brake cylinder linking the front and rear brakes failed on mine too. People have died because of that, when the rear tire locks up unexpectedly in traffic, and Honda is facing several lawsuits. Serious engineering flaw. Bad Honda!

I admit that I like the NC750 too, but I prefer the now discontinued CTX700. Same engine as the NC700, but factory saddle bags and a more comfy seat (at least to me, Ive sat on both)

But the FJR is the one that really calls me. I've ridden all three generations, and Gen 2 has the features I like without the eletronic overkill. But I am sure I'd be happy with a low mileage Gen 1 if I found one... Or a Gen 3... Hey, Im not that picky! Lol

Thanks for your detailed reply!

CTX700



2012 FJR13000