Do you think this is for real?

[Ulvetanna_imp]

Bottom line, every manufacturer can have a separate scheme for decoding its VIN number:

D. Manufacturer’s Requirement to Furnish NHTSA with VIN Deciphering Information

It is very important that each manufacturer report to NHTSA its complete VIN deciphering information so that the agency may simplify vehicle identification information retrieval and increase the accuracy and efficiency of the vehicle recall campaigns.

So whether the last four or six digits are in any kind of meaningful sequence is up to the manufacturer.

Either way, 398 units for an entire state of California is not very many.

And $4288 for a brand-new, old-stock CB1100? That's amazing.

[peterbaron]

17 digits/letters combination = 17 positions = VIN


Positions 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
This is where the manufacturers enter unique information about the particular vehicle the VIN belongs to. The name of the assembly plant, extra options added to the vehicle, Production Sequence Number and things of that nature. This is different from company to company


Ferret and Cormanus, we need your input about VIN issue, please.....stop cleaning your bikes = the competition is over = showroom bike took the FIRST place = you both are losers...lol...lol....just kidd ya



pb

[emptysea]

Weird that this thread drifted to the odd and largely superfluous of VIN configuration. Weirder still is that I'm almost positive that an entirely VIN-related thread already exists on this forum.

[Ulvetanna_imp]

What I hope is for real is a huge discount on 2017 CB1100EX, red, thank you. Plenty for sale right now, but spring will come and guys will open their bank accounts, and the supply will deplete. Hope I can time it right, assuming I am still hot to buy one in a few months.

[VLJ_imp]

Ulvetanna, my XSR's vin ends in 00047, and I received the first one sold in the Sacramento region. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I have the forty-seventh U.S.-spec unit to roll off of the assembly line.

As for deep discounts on the '17 EX, yes, they are most certainly available. Are they as deep as what we're seeing on the '14 Standards? Nope, but deep indeed, they are! <----- Yoda speak

[Guth_imp]

Regardless of whether it's sequential or numbered as the bikes arrive in the country, a last-three-digits vin designation of '393' means that a minimum of 393 '17 CB1100s were brought to the U.S. Seeing as how that bike has sat there for a good three or four months, I'm guessing there must be at least 500 '17 CB1100s in the country.

VLJ, I take it that, after a fairly thorough reading of the NHTSA document, that some of the units may be numbered randomly; that is, there is really no sequence required. As long as the identifier is unique and all other of the very complex aspects of creating the VIN are followed, the VIN number is legal.

Read up on how the check digit is created and verified...arrggghhh.

I don't think the last digits of the VIN are any way to really assess how many of any particular model got to any particular market.

I know I've never seen a 2017, and I live in the most populous area for motorcycles in the state. They don't seem to be able to give them away, hardly.

Here is a partial VIN of 2014::
VIN Number: 102229

and here is the link to this bike:
https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2014...-122423882

Tell me what you think of this VIN...... it is 102229 th CB made by Honda in 2014 or maybe 102229 in the US...or something else??????

pb

Thanks for that; no way Honda ever imported over 100,000 CB1100s to the United States. The number is actually 102291, there was a typo in the initial post. Those would be HUGE numbers for any model.

Okay, Okay, I guess the jig is up as I simply cannot keep up this facade any longer. I hoped that my strong denials might have dissuaded the persistent few of you who have been messaging me privately with your suspicions. As it turns out, I am in fact a wealthy billionaire — is there any other kind? Sorry, it's an old joke that us billionaire's still get a chuckle out of. (Of course we billionaires get a chuckle out of a lot of things to be honest with you.) Or at least I was a billionaire, until I started stockpiling well over 100,000 CB1100s in warehouses across the country that is.

As a couple of you who wrote me correctly guessed, my plan was to overtake the motorcycling world with my unbelievably large troop of synchronized CB1100 gymkhana riders. That's right, we were going to take the motorcycle gymkhana world by storm. If only gymkhana's appeal would have grown at a faster rate (make that much faster) here in the States I'm confident that my plan would have materialized. By then people would be spending upwards of 20 large to buy a nice low-mileage CB1100 from me. Unfortunately, by the time I managed to have the VIN regulations changed to to purposefully confuse the likes of you folks I had almost no money left. (This should be obvious by the low-budget, no-frills online forum that resides on the screen before you now.) I should have known that in the end my wily plan would ultimately be crushed by intelligent, well-informed CB1100 enthusiasts.

Why oh why couldn't I have opted for the GROM instead, now that would have saved me a lot of money and those crazy little bikes would have really blown away some of those stuffy gymkhana traditionalists. (And what are the odds that those GROM forum guys would have thwarted my hopes and dreams?)
Oh yeah, don't forget to try and keep an eye on the thread drift around here fellas.

[flynrider]

Here's hoping it stops raining soon. You need to get out of the house.

[Guth_imp]

Here's hoping it stops raining soon. You need to get out of the house.

Did my wife pay you to say that by chance?

[emptysea]

Is there a peechless: emoticon? Apparently not.

[Cormanus]

Great plan, Guth! You'e a genius! I've always said that.
Now, to the question of VINs. There are some notes about the CB1100s VIN in [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=10637]this thread. There is also a long discussion about VINs in [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3872]this thread when two members insisted that they had identical VINs—an impossibility unless one of the bike had been stolen and carried a falsified VIN. As it turned out, they didn't. One was a standard bike; the other was an ABS model. That shows clearly that Honda uses the same end digits for different models of the same year's bike and distinguishes between them elsewhere in the VIN. In the case of the CB1100 its in the 8th digit. So, SC651 was the non ABS bike and SC655 for the ABS model. Look at the forum VIN register to see some duplicate numbers.

Anyone really interested should at least scan [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number]this Wikipedia article which will give you an understanding of how formulaic this is. VINs are for the convenience of regulators not manufacturers and play an important role in law enforcement for detecting stolen and re-birthed vehicles.

I can't prove that the final digits of VINs are sequential, but on the basis of information collected on this forum alone, it is hard to believe they are not. Take the VIN referred to bu Ulvetanna and Peter Baron. It was for a 2014 CB1100 standard. In full the VIN would be JH2SC6510DK102291. That tells me it is is a 2014 standard likely to be number 2291 to come off the production line and that Honda is using the digit '1' in position 12 for some purpose of its own.