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The CB hauls a pillion without noticing except, perhaps, when braking on a hill. It needs some sort of a backrest or rack though or the pillion constantly feels he or she may slide off.
Have you had any road riding experience at all? If not, starting smaller than the CB1100 might be prudent. It’s a heavy brute at low speeds.
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This discussion brings to mind my 1976 CB750F which was only about 20 pounds lighter...so, I do not consider the CB1100 particularly heavy...about the same as both Sportsters and just a tad more than the Bonneville.
Heavier than a sportbike, but not really that heavy.
Continuing the yesteryear comparison, the CB750F (736cc) was rated
67 HP @ 8,000 RPM, 44 ft lbs @ 7,000 RPM
and the CB1100 (1140cc) is
86 HP @ 7,500 RPM, 66 ft lbs @ 5,700
Right now, there is no other street M/C that I would prefer.
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doc....it seems you know nothing other as heavy streetbikes.....our collleague it seems knows only easy going/handling "bicycles".....byside the weight.....different kind engines ( too in volume) has different kind characters....different seat positions are too different for handling a bike.......the different feeling of suspension like enduro and chopper....
we dont know what prefer his as if he can feel eventual by testdrives all this different things ...
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(02-26-2018, 02:31 PM)alprider_imp Wrote: doc....it seems you know nothing other as heavy streetbikes.....our collleague it seems knows only easy going/handling "bicycles".....byside the weight.....different kind engines ( too in volume) has different kind characters....different seat positions are too different for handling a bike.......the different feeling of suspension like enduro and chopper....
we dont know what prefer his as if he can feel eventual by testdrives all this different things ...
In my signature block are two bikes, owned in the last ~ year, which weigh 278 pounds and 298 pounds. Once moving, weight makes little difference. On the other hand, I did not enjoy riding my son-in-laws Road King very much (723 pounds dry).
The OP is a mature adult, heavier than I, has extensive riding experience, so I would not advise the same as a 16 year old.
OTOH, my worst crash was at the age of 16 on a CA110 (174 pounds dry?) Had I more experience I may have avoided an 18 wheeler turning left in front of me...or decapitated myself...instead of a spinal injury.
Other bikes, dating back to 1963, include:
CB360
SL350
CL350
CL160
CB160
and three Yamaha enduros (CT175 = 236 pounds wet)
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smile ok...but just dont forgett it seems HE knows only " bicycles"..
.for me is the 400kg goldwing since many years too my daily normal food.....in this view : a 125cc motocross is just a funny toy for the garden
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No way to the NEW SV. That seat is for short people and is torture. You need more legroom. How about a VStrom 650?
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(02-27-2018, 01:05 AM)nhawk7504_imp Wrote: No way to the NEW SV. That seat is for short people and is torture. You need more legroom. How about a VStrom 650?
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What would you say of the VStrom 650 vs. the Yamaha XSR700? There's also the Yamaha FJ-09.
Riding will be 100% street if that matters and 2-up is important or I'll be a d*ck.
Thanks again.
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Starting on a CB is not impossible. It has good power but is not unwieldy like a Ninja1000 or a Yamaha FZ-09. It is heavy but well balanced. However I would never recommend it to a beginner. I had 24000 km on my first bike, and still found the CB's weight and power took some getting used to. I had a few moments on my first bike where I was able to recover because it didn't have the weight or the power of the CB. I would say get something lighter with a bit less power for your first. Preferably used and a good bargain, after a season if the CB still pulls your heartstrings go for it. You also never know the type of rider you will become. I was initially drawn to the cruiser styles, but after riding for a while I found myself drawn to bikes with a little more clearance and a standard riding position to hit the twisties gained my interest. A friend of mine started on a cruiser and after became an Adventure rider (BMW F800GS). I had a friend who started on a sport bike, but then switched to a nice relaxed cruiser (Harley Davidson). Start with an all around bike, put tonnes of miles on it, the type of rider you are will come out and then get the bike that suits your style.
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I say go with the CB. It's a very easy bike to ride despite the weight. I'm 5' 6" and near 70 with bad knees and shoulders, yet this bike's weight has never been a problem for me. With your height and experience in motocross (best training for bike control known) I see no reason to start with a light weight bike that you will soon grow weary of.
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I am 6'2" tall and weigh 225 pounds. I rode motorcycles of all sizes for 23 years, and then took a 25 year hiatus. When I returned I bought a Honda CB500XA. It is called an adventure bike and is capable of riding on dirt and gravel roads. More so if you change the tires.
It is 125 pounds lighter than my 2017 CB1100 EX. It has a tall suspension, so the riding position is straight up and my knees were not as folded up as on my CB1100. It is quite capable of highway speed, but is more suited for scenic twisty back roads. Best of all it is half the price of a CB1100. Over three summers I rode over 33,000 kilometers/20,500 miles on it and thoroughly enjoyed every ride.
It was also very easy to trade in at my Honda dealer when I bought my 2017 CB1100 EX.