The world will never be the same

[Tim_imp]

Well baxtercat, I will snap a photo of it next week like i said. The dealer may have done something to it, added ect. Sorry if you get upset that I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion about things, you certainly seem rather opinionated for someone who doesn't like the fact that someone else can except others thoughts, sorry you don't seem to be able to. But thanks for the input. Regardless of your views on it I appreciate the fact you took the time to voice your thoughts.

[Cormanus]

Look forward to the photo, Tim. It’s pretty likely, though, that the dealer/salesperson did not know what they were talking about when they said it was a 2018 model. As far as we know through posts on this forum, there is no new model for 2018 being sent to the US. I may be wrong, but I suspect the only difference in the 2018 bikes being sent to Europe is the colour.

As for the headlight, reference to Partsfish shows that the 2014 headlight assembly is $181.25 compared to $782.03 for the 2017 bike. The difference is that the 2017 model has an LED headlight which are generally more expensive due to the technology and the claimed longevity. They are also becoming the norm and are claimed by many to be better than globed headlights.

Your views on the CB are welcome here, as are those of others. Perhaps you should do a search of the forum for other discussions about the 2017 CB1100 EX. It has provoked many opinions with the tank being one of the more discussed items.

I own a 2011 model which is pretty much the same as the 2014 and I’ve had a pretty good look at the EX and the RS when I was overseas last year. For my part, I thought the quality seemed comparable with the earlier models. I also like the dual exhaust, the shorter mufflers and the fact that the headers will not discolour in the way the pre 2017 standard models will. Unlike most forum members, though, ima crept the discolouration as an unfortunate design feature and live with it. No Optiglanz for me.

[dbarkdoll_imp]

Not sure why the price of the headlight really matters, seems like one of the last places on the bike to hit the asphalt in a wreck. Odds are if the headlight is damaged the rest of the bike is in a whole lot worse shape.

[Cormanus]

I assume Tim was trying to make a point about increased cost for either only a slightly improved product or even one of a slightly lesser quality. On it’s face it seems a reasonable example, although I suspect the changed technology weakens the example. It is not, as they say, comparing apples with apples.

[VLJ_imp]

Lightweight plastics vs glass, aluminum vs stamped steel, EFI vs carburetors, ECUs that rival NORAD's computing ability in the 1970s, etc., they're all part and parcel of the demonizing of the modern motorcycle by those who persist in waving their fist at the clouds.

It's just the way it is.

I just want to make sure that the info being bandied about with these "get off my lawn!" posts is at least correct.

[Banned_imp]

Well, I for one prefer my bikes to be made of metal. That's partly why I went with a Harley in '03, everything is metal whereas the imports at the time had all kinds of crappy plastic. I'm not waving my fist at the clouds or demonizing anything, if you like bikes with plastic then have at.

Same with handguns, I love 1911s (I have 3) but hate those polymer striker fired pistols. Call me old fashioned I guess

[Tim_imp]

I honestly appreciate everyone adding to what is obviously my own feelings about what I had looked at. I mentioned the headlight because I really liked how it looked plus the fact it was LED. If the price was more reasonable I would certainly consider it as a great upgrade to my existing 2014.

I am I guess I have to admit, despite not wanting to acknowledge how old I'm getting, what all the young wiper snappers out there would call old school. I grew up when things were made to last almost forever. Part of that was because they were made of strong natural materials, like steel, and glass. As our world has evolved, new, innovative materials have come to the forefront of manufacturing. Most great products, but some simply used to cut costs and increase profits. I have worked with most of the highest Tec of these through out my life.

The biggest reason from what I have read out there that people are drawn to the CB 1100, regardless of year or model, is that it brings back a very nostalgic era of motorcycle development. For me that was very important from my own experience's riding and owning almost bullet proof bikes. I didn't make my comments to anger or put down anyone's own feelings about their bikes. Its simply a way for my own disappointment to possibly find new ideas and change my own feeling based on things others know that I may not. Question everything and you just might learn something new.

[VLJ_imp]

The thing is, despite your romanticized notions of days gone by, this new CB1100 will undoubtedly prove to be more durable and reliable than any of the bikes you remember so fondly from the halcyon '60s and '70s.

Simply put, the current bike is even better built now than it was then. It will do everything better, longer, and more reliably.

[SportsterDoc]

A friend in MI just upgraded his 2006 Sporterster to a Daymaker.

There are many, many knock-offs, which may be as good or close-there-to, but I have seen no reviews for any better.

Check out the price and realize that the replacement part from Honda likely included the bucket.

https://www.harley-davidson.com/store/da...7700145--1

I seldom ride at night, so an LED for me would be only for longivity and maybe for reduced stator load.

Friend (Vrod) and I stopped at the H-D dealer in Washington, UT, Monday morning. I do like Sportsters, or at least the last years of the rigid mount motors (2003), and H-D has better build quality than credit is generally given, but the CB1100 is a higher plateau.

Mine got its first car" wash today at 7,330 miles.
Parked under bush at son's new (to him) place and collected droppings off the bush.

The thing is, despite your romanticized notions of days gone by, this new CB1100 will undoubtedly prove to be more durable and reliable than any of the bikes you remember so fondly from the halcyon '60s and '70s.

Simply put, the current bike is even better built now than it was then. It will do everything better, longer, and more reliably.

I think that is aptly stated.
Although my 1976 CB750F was good for 122 MPH.
Note: Points are easy to maintain, easy to adjust on the road, but the dual points on my 76 would not stay adjusted; so I replaced them with a Martek 440 electronic unit. Durable even after we parted company at ~38,000 miles in 1981.