Modular helmet?

[quiffy_imp]

Good stuff
Thanks

[PowerDubs_imp]

Scary stuff!!


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[offroadfx4_imp]

The only thing I remember when switching from HJC to Shoei Neotec II is the Shoei has a metal latching mechanism vs HJC plastic....doesn't mean it works any better but it should?

I really wanted the integrated intercom, internal sun visor and pin lock

I do like that with a modular you can "spread" the helmet a little to go over ear buds/plugs.

I also like if you're trying to talk to someone, you don't have to take your helmet off for them to see your mouth and somewhat read your lips.

The only real complaint is it's not water proof with the visor down and locked. Rain runs down the inside of the visor. Granted it was pouring but for the money I'd think it should be waterproof.

Called Shoei they said if I shipped it to them (CA) they would try to "refit" the visor, but I never did.

[quiffy_imp]

I ordered a Shuberth C3 lite online.

[Charlie Bravo_imp]

I was wearing an HJC modular when I had an unplanned get-off a few years ago. It got banged and scraped up. I was going to replace the shield and keep using it, but everyone said no, replace it. I still had an older HJC full-face, so I put that one on, and have not gotten around to getting another modular yet, but I do plan on it. They're so convenient, and I wore earplugs all the time then, but not anymore due to the full-face.

[j3gq_imp]

Found a couple of interesting posts here, let me try to address some remarks. Any comment welcome.
@quiffy
I bought a user-friendly LS2 Scope modular in Germany earlier this year at 130€, comfortable, easy to use with sunglasses, good test results, and so you don't need to spend 700 bugs.
@Alain Lee
I found a way to secure the helmet neatly (have to release the seat) without an adapter. If you're interested I can send a photo.
@PowerDubs
Unlocking is certainly a concern, thanks for the link to Sharp testing! I wonder if the results means that a helmet opens with the locking lever in the locked position (by sheer force ?), or whether it means in an accident the locking lever gets moved (e.g. while sliding across the asphalt ?).
@Houtman
I find a 70% latch, as they call it at Sharp, highly unlikely as a real world test result. It would mean that in 10 different accident scenarios the helmet has opened 7 times. If this is reported in a test, it would indicate that this test really focuses on one specific kind of accident or impact. After looking at the Sharp procedure I find this confirmed:
all Sharp tests are high force penetration tests, IF this was part of your accident scenario it still DOES NOT mean that if the helmet gets unlocked it actually opens. They say explicitly "Latch% = Percentage of impacts where the face guard remained fully locked", that is not the same as open.

@ nobody - my personal conclusion
I will keep using my modular, or replace it with a better one in the future. The advantages (for me!) are enormous, and yes, this comes with an extra risk.

[suhawk305]

Found a couple of interesting posts here, let me try to address some remarks. Any comment welcome.
@quiffy
I bought a user-friendly LS2 Scope modular in Germany earlier this year at 130€, comfortable, easy to use with sunglasses, good test results, and so you don't need to spend 700 bugs.
@Alain Lee
I found a way to secure the helmet neatly (have to release the seat) without an adapter. If you're interested I can send a photo.
@PowerDubs
Unlocking is certainly a concern, thanks for the link to Sharp testing! I wonder if the results means that a helmet opens with the locking lever in the locked position (by sheer force ?), or whether it means in an accident the locking lever gets moved (e.g. while sliding across the asphalt ?).
@Houtman
I find a 70% latch, as they call it at Sharp, highly unlikely as a real world test result. It would mean that in 10 different accident scenarios the helmet has opened 7 times. If this is reported in a test, it would indicate that this test really focuses on one specific kind of accident or impact. After looking at the Sharp procedure I find this confirmed:
all Sharp tests are high force penetration tests, IF this was part of your accident scenario it still DOES NOT mean that if the helmet gets unlocked it actually opens. They say explicitly "Latch% = Percentage of impacts where the face guard remained fully locked", that is not the same as open.

@ nobody - my personal conclusion
I will keep using my modular, or replace it with a better one in the future. The advantages (for me!) are enormous, and yes, this comes with an extra risk.

Hi, j3gq.
I have the same situation as Alain with securing my Shoei GT Air II. I would be interested in getting your photo. I am not sure if you can attach a photo to a PM, if not, I can PM you my email address.
Thanks

[j3gq_imp]

For tonight I can only describe it, my Honda is already in hibernation for the winter (didn't think about this when I wrote 'photo'). But see if the description works for you - if not let me know.

I release the seat with the key, lift/loosen it a little. On the right side of the Honda (the left doesn't work) I feed the helmet strap with the ratchet (or teeth) from the top around the horizontal frame/bar just exposed by lifting the seat. Holding the helmet with my knees, the mentioned strap with my left hand, I reach with my right hand for the other strap (the one with the buckle), and join ratchet and buckle. A push on the seat to lock it and I am done.

Why is this good (enough) ? The geometry is such that, when compared to the useless helmet lock on the left, the straps are much tighter and harder to reach when the seat is down. And the helmet's underside is firmly positioned against frame and seat. This position makes it also very hard for the goofs to leave "gifts".

[suhawk305]

Thank you j3gp. Your description make perfect sense. Simple solution.

[Lord Popgun]

Isn’t there a helmet hook under the seat? Mine has one. Never used it and don’t know how useful it is.