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Egocentric Actions/Results
#11
It think the county should install bleachers and charge admission. I'd pay if I lived there, good entertainment.


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#12
Nah. I rather watch the Longhorns play. Or maybe go to COTA.

Cheers
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#13
(04-12-2016, 11:12 PM)WhiskeyUSMC1979_imp Wrote: That is less about speed or "racing" and more about lack of skill and intelligence. There is a reason there are so many people there to film all these idiots along the same stretch of road. It's a fun ride, and they were all pretty much within the speed limit. The problem is with the ability of the riders.


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Gotta agree with you there. The level of skill displayed was just appalling.
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#14
COTA just an hour drive for me, so I go to MotoGP when in I am in town.


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#15
Many had some skills, just very poor judgement.

E.g. the fellow that applied front brake as soon as he saw the cop; problem: He was leaned way over so he pulled a Marquez.

Others were doing OK until they suffered from target fixation - something I myself have a problem with. sigh.

One guy had great form, looking ahead, leaned over, then properly low sided. I suspect it was a decreasing radius corner that bit them as I couldn't really see what was causing the problem since most entered the corner just fine. Which means they displayed poor judgement in "racing" a road they did not know.
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#16
(04-14-2016, 08:10 AM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Many had some skills, just very poor judgement.

E.g. the fellow that applied front brake as soon as he saw the cop; problem: He was leaned way over so he pulled a Marquez.

Others were doing OK until they suffered from target fixation - something I myself have a problem with. sigh.

One guy had great form, looking ahead, leaned over, then properly low sided. I suspect it was a decreasing radius corner that bit them as I couldn't really see what was causing the problem since most entered the corner just fine. Which means they displayed poor judgement in "racing" a road they did not know.

Most seem to be trying to accelerate out of the curve too soon and losing the back end. Or, they drag a peg and flinch, going upright and heading for the dirt. Not the kind of riding I will attempt. I likes my bike too much to risk it... not to mention my hide :-)
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#17
Fellow on the Harley simply ran out of cornering clearance and thus traction.
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#18
The thing is though, the stupidity isn't in the rider's technical skills themselves; rather, it's in the error in judgement in not leaving at least a 20-30% margin for things going wrong or for things you don't foresee. That's the problem with pushing it on the street, is even if you know the road, it's never exactly the same each time and you usually don't get to do a sighting lap before actually doing your high-speed run. If you're pushing it hard enough that things like corner clearance and overloading your front tire become problems, you should be dialing it back.
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#19
I've seen the vid a number of time now.. I think it boils more down to the lack of experience..

There were three things I was taught that I always remember to redo when I start riding after the winter..

At speed, push the bar in the direction you want to go.. Push left to go left.. It the motorcycle equivalent to turn into the slid.. Yes technically you are turning the front the wrong way, but welcome to counter steering. Don't believe me.. Try it very gently, it works

The second is that the throttle is your friend and will save you more than the brake.. Remember, if you're in a turn and you slow, the bike will stand up and you will go straight.. So if your going quickly and a harsh turn comes up and you slow up, you'll go straight off the road..

Lastly, and this has saved me more times than I can count, look where you want to go.. Target fixation is natural..the best way to deal with it at least for me is to target where I want to be.. If the two items above are practiced, if you know where you want to be, the push in the direction of the turn and use the throttle to get you there, it can happen automatically..

I'd like to think I'm older and wiser now.. However to get here, I was first young and stupid.. I rode roads faster than I should have.. Doing that sooner or later you will meet a ugly decreasing radius turn (fancy way of saying the turn gets tighter as go).. Your choices are to either run wide into a ditch or oncoming traffic. Or to push to the inside and roll on the throttle..

Trust me, I get it.. It's counter intuitive..

Just about every bike in the video shows some kind of hesitation..either entering a turn and the going off the road. Worse, they make it thru the turn (but it's not smooth) and they don't roll on the throttle, they wack it, so the bike either jerks or spins and hello ground.. It as if by having to scrub off too much speed they want to make up on the exit. Which conversely can put you too hot into the next turn..

I was always taught smooth is fast.. So if you lose time in one turn,
You will lose more time overall if try and make up time by using the throttle as a light switch (you know, on off on off)..
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#20
Natural selection at work there.

In addition to rider error, there had to be a coating of dust/dirt on those corners. Hopefully the guy that took out those cyclists was cuffed and thrown in jail and charged with assault.
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