Stereotypes, pondering and I'm not tough enough

[Cormanus]

I saw a bloke on a sports bike last week riding in the rain wearing a pair of shorts and not wearing gloves. For some reason my mother's saying 'Where there's no sense there's no feeling' popped into my head.

[Stichill_imp]

ferret (and others of whom I may be remiss in failing to mention): I'm loving your side-handed slaps like "life-saving pipes" and "using their pipes to save their lives"...pure comic gold.

[the Ferret]

Last evening my wife and I rode the ST out to Ripley Ohio. We were sitting there drinking water on some benches and watching the river flow by, when we heard a rumble. Rumble got louder and louder. All of a sudden a herd of Harley's all with life saving pipes came by. Wife started counting them late and quit when she got to 20. Annoyingly loud. Came from 2 bars up the street. We could still hear them over a mile away as they paraded down Rt 52 towards Cincinnati. We finished our water and rode through town toward the bars and there were still quite a few there and two pulled out n front of us and we got caught behind them. Crazy loud and they had to keep revving them at the light between buildings. Unfortunately they turn left the way we were going. 1/2 mile later I turned right and headed north rather than follow them and have to listen to those two for 25 miles. Can't imagine how anyone enjoys that.

[Rocky_imp]

Last evening my wife and I rode the ST out to Ripley Ohio. We were sitting there drinking water on some benches and watching the river flow by, when we heard a rumble. Rumble got louder and louder. All of a sudden a herd of Harley's all with life saving pipes came by. Wife started counting them late and quit when she got to 20. Annoyingly loud. Came from 2 bars up the street. We could still hear them over a mile away as they paraded down Rt 52 towards Cincinnati. We finished our water and rode through town toward the bars and there were still quite a few there and two pulled out n front of us and we got caught behind them. Crazy loud and they had to keep revving them at the light between buildings. Unfortunately they turn left the way we were going. 1/2 mile later I turned right and headed north rather than follow them and have to listen to those two for 25 miles. Can't imagine how anyone enjoys that.

I agree, I just don't get it at all.
It's those dimwits (and others too) who only make it difficult for all of us to be respected and welcomed by the public and businesses.

[redbirds_imp]

If laws were passed and enforced in every state mandating the use of stock pipes or after market pipes that are DOT approved, I'd bet many of these strutting peacocks would give up riding all together.

A few years ago while riding the BRP with friends, we had the misfortune to get behind a large number of HD riders and all equipped with earth pounding exhaust pipes. As their group entered a tunnel they slowed to a near stop and revved the engines to enjoy the effect. This caused a near collision as we entered the tunnel going from bright sunlight to the dark and not seeing the slowed group ahead.

[LongRanger_imp]

Denver County and I believe the State of Calufornia have laws against tampering with the OE exhaust but heaven knows they're not enforced.

I witnessed the same "stop in the tunnel and rev the bikes loud" inside one of the spectacular tunnels overlooking Mt. Rushmore. The behavior is juvenile and sacrilegious, not to mention a traffic hazard. We've become a pathetic, narcissistic society. Fortunately most of these morons are aging out and won't be riding much longer.

[Stichill_imp]

What I don't understand is the permissiveness of the local police. When I was a kid in Virginia, we could get stopped in our cars if a police office pulled up beside us at a light and heard a hole in the muffler or exhaust pipe. The police weren't interested in the safety aspect of carbon monoxide...they wanted the exhaust noise to be abated. I had a buddy with "cherry bombs" on his Chevy Nova leading to small pipes that exited in front of the rear wheels. Once the fiberglass blew out of them they could be loud, but he was very adept at manipulating the throttle to make them surprisingly quiet around town to avoid police attention. The only time he made noise with them was street racing after midnight on lonely stretches of highway out of town. "Getting on it" around town would have been a sure way to get pulled over and receive a performance award. But nowadays these Harleys make 10X more noise than my buddy's Nova a full throttle, yet they are allowed to blast around with impunity (much like the "boom boom" car stereo idiots).

[Rocky_imp]

Denver County and I believe the State of Calufornia have laws against tampering with the OE exhaust but heaven knows they're not enforced.

I witnessed the same "stop in the tunnel and rev the bikes loud" inside one of the spectacular tunnels overlooking Mt. Rushmore. The behavior is juvenile and sacrilegious, not to mention a traffic hazard. We've become a pathetic, narcissistic society. Fortunately most of these morons are aging out and won't be riding much longer.

I'm afraid that's the truth. It's only wrong if you get caught.

Last summer I backed my CB into a spot that bordered on a park with benches under shade trees. There was a bench a few steps from the back end of my bike.
When I came back an elderly couple were sitting there, but got up to leave when they saw me about to start the bike.
I assured them my bike was quiet and they smiled and sat back down when they heard my muted exhaust note.
I explained that we aren't all like those "others" who are annoying to us too.

[Nortoon_imp]

Said it before will say it again..I am not tough enough to ride a HArley..only now I am going to add sport bikes to that quote.

Finished cutting the grass and had some errands to run. Grabbed my mc boots, my Fox Creek leather jacket and gauntlet deer skin gloves and and an HJC 3/4 helmet. I was already wearing a long sleeved t shirt and flannel lined jeans. Hadn't planned to go far and figured this would be enough. It was in the upper 60's but I thought it rather nippy still. I'll be riding the CB.

Rode up and paid for some new gutters we had installed on the house last week, and ran over to the pharmacy to pick up a script for my wife. At the pharmacy I parked the bike next to a full dress Harley in the lot, took off and locked up my helmet, and was walking thru the lot when a clean cut gentleman in a white T, jeans and gym shoes walked past me and said " You meet the nicest people on a Honda". I laughed and said " Why, thank you", and kept walking. At the door I turned to see said fellow throwing a leg over the Harley. No helmet of course. He fired it up and rumbled off. I thought "he doesn't look like a Harley rider to me." Like a Harley rider has to look a certain way. How foolish of me. Stereotypes I laughed.

Anyhow I get the script and head home and come upon a couple on another Harley. Black tees, jeans. No helmets. She was wearing a head band. He was bald and had an earring. Bike had droopy leather saddlebags, life saving pipes, and they were doing 35 in the straights and a little less than 30 thru the curves in a 40 zone. This went on about 3 miles until we came to a stop sign. They turned left (I was going to turn left too but decided to turn right instead). Closer to what I had in my mind for Harley riders. Faith in stereotypes renewed

Another couple miles up the road I come upon a sport bike. Red white and blue Honda CBR. Couldn't tell if it was a 600 or 1000. Undertail with lic plate stuffed up under the rear fender, no turn signals I could see (ends up they were little glowing things inside the tail light) Rider had a silver full face helmet on, grey T shirt (one of those real thin stretchy kinds), cargo shorts, short socks and gym shoes. No gloves. Tattoos on both calves. His left leg had a sun and moon, the right one some Japanese writing. Millenial I think.

Again I thought these guys are tougher than I am. It's kinda chilly and he's wearing the least of everybody. We both turn onto one of my favorite curvy roads, one I know VERY well. Will see what he has. Over the first little rise into a right hander and he's positioned wrong for the next 2 curves and he's going to bounce over some broken pavement (he did which he could have avoid had he hung to the left in the lane which also would have set him up best for the next 2 curves). Hmm he's braking for the left hander and staying in the middle of the road. After the next right is a short straight away followed by more curves. On the straight he gaps me quickly by 100 yards (first time I ever felt the CB lacked power). Thru the curves I reel him back in. This goes on for the next 4 miles. On the straights he's gone, in the curves I catch him. He's staying in the center of the lane, while I'm doing the apex inside out, outside in thing. I figure by lane positioning, he is a fairly new rider. Again, young guy, fast sport bike, undertail and hidden t/s, tattoos in weird places, lack of riding gear... sport bike squid. Stereotypes lol.

Pondering: I wonder what all these people thought when they saw me. Leather Jacket, mc riding boots, gloves, helmet, Japanese UJM, riding too fast and using all the road because that is the most efficient way to go fast. Wonder what stereotype I was fitting into for them. Wonder if they told anyone: "I saw this old guy today, almost bald, white beard, had to be hot, because he was wearing all kinds of gear. Couldn't even hear his bike. He was all over the road. Old guys "

Last October it was mid-50s in the morning when I set out for a day ride. To remain warm I wore my full face helmet, Boot Hill Saloon long sleeve t-shirt, heavy flannel shirt, micro-fibre filled long sleeved vest, leather jacket, insulated suede deerskin gloves, long underwear, flannel lined jeans, tall woolly socks and my Alpinestars Roam boots.

About an hour out I pass two tiny young girls waiting with their dad in the laneway for the school bus. The girls were wearing Croc shoes, white ankle socks, mini skirts, and short sleeves T-shirts. I just shook my head thinking what a wuss I was dressed like an eskimo.

[Cormanus]

Don't beat yourself up, Nortoon. They probably didn't have to run through the chilly wind at 100 kph!