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Safe riding - rider down outside my house
#1
I just now read this, and deep, deep RIP to this rider. A motorcyclist was killed yesterday when he struck the back of a firetruck that was backing into traffic on my street, less than a block from my house.

This happened where my street makes a 90 degree turn. Fast drivers and riders love to take that curve at high speeds, and there are frequent crashes. On both sides of the turn, there are flashing yellow lights, 35 mph speed signs, and due to the frequency of high speed crashes, concrete barriers dividing the two directions of traffic in the curve to prevent head-on crashes.

On a daily basis, I hear every manner of fast vehicle taking that turn at high speed - motorcycles, loud V8s, raspy imports, you name it. For some reason, it's a magnet for speeders. Every few months, that curve is shut down to clear up a crash, and we have to turn around and take "the long way home" to get to our gate.

Late yesterday afternoon, I went home early to work on our washing machine in the garage. I heard a sport bike at full chat heading into that curve, and thought to myself, as I always do, "man, that sounds fast". I didn't hear the sound of the crash, but heard the throttle cut off, figuring that he was through the turn, past the "fun part" of the road, and had throttled back. The fire station is just down from the site of the crash, so if there were sirens at all to respond to the crash, they wouldn't have registered in my mind - I hear sirens from that department all the time.

Later on, my wife called, telling me she was going to be late getting home because the curve was closed again for a crash and she had to turn around to find another way into our complex.

Just looked this morning to see what the crash was, and learned that it was that same bike that I must have heard screaming into the curve. He struck a firetruck that was backing out from a side street. It must have been a very hard hit, as the three fire fighters in the truck were also injured. I pray for the family of the fallen rider, and for the fire fighters.

I go through that curve and pass the site of that crash at least twice a day. Knowing the distance of that side street from the point in the curve where you can see the side street, If I were going anything less than about 55 mph, I'd be able to bring a truck, let alone a sport bike, to a complete stop before I hit anything coming off of that street where the fire truck was. I can't imagine how fast that bike must have been going.

Very, very sad to read.
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#2
Sad to read and a senseless crash. If only he had used his head.
We have our share of crashes and deaths every year and most are due to speed and loss of control.
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#3
Very sad but also very stupid , hopefully he did not leave a family behind to pick up the pieces.
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#4
Sad but avoidable....looks like an R1 or R6....was he coming out of the big sweeper on Collins heading toward Wanda rd?
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#5
Yes, heading toward Wanda. I can only think that if he lost control at speed and ran wide in the turn, he'd be in the right gutter. If he were carrying too much speed without control, he'd be right in the path of the truck which would have been coming out from the right. Looks like the truck wasn't too far out into the street, and if it were backing, it would be moving slowly. There are two lanes in that direction, and if he had control, he had more than a full lane to the left to get around the truck.
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#6
Sad there was a loss of life, but that road is pretty wide and open, and it certainly looked avoidable. No signs of any skid marks, and this is in the area after the road straightens out. Hard to tell what happened, as I couldn't see any damage to the fire truck except possibly at the right front door.

Even though you didn't actually see it, what you heard is valuable experienced testimony to the CHP.
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#7
Found a video taken by someone standing on the street as the police and rescue crews did their investigation. From the position of the downed bike next to the back bumper of the fire truck, the truck had barely started to back into the roadway from the right. Unless the fire truck pulled forward after the impact for some reason, the bike must have been far over to the right hand edge of the roadway against the curb after making the sweeping left turn.

Unlikely that the fire truck moved, however, as the bike would be more in the middle of the road, not immediately next to the truck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gf2_YQu8h8
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#8
Unfortunate to read that this was a story. Are you okay Gone in 60?
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#9
Good question, GO.

I’m also sorry to read this thread. It’s not good at all to hear of another person losing their like in a senseless MVA.

To strike a discordant note, perhaps, I do wish people would be a little less selfish. If idiots want to put an end to themselves riding (or driving) dangerously, I do wish they’d do it in such a way that doesn’t physically or emotionally injure others.
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#10
doesn't bring him back, but in Georgia backing into a street is against the law. Bad firetruck!
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