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Chain lube
#21
(06-15-2014, 05:37 PM)TINK_imp Wrote: I use the Pro Honda Chain Lube With White Graphite. Spray the chain every 500 miles. Clean the chain with kerosene every oil change. Buy only DID chains. I've gotten over 80,000 miles out of my chain. Got to love the current generation of o-ring chains, not like the old days when you would have to buy a new chain every time you put tires on the bike. TINK

This is my experience. I had 28k mi. on the oem DID on the VFR. It was still within spec when I had it replaced but I did it anyway prior to selling it to put in back in shape.
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#22
(06-15-2014, 06:39 PM)Pterodactyl_imp Wrote:
(04-20-2014, 06:56 PM)Tortuga_imp Wrote:
(04-20-2014, 06:42 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: With O-ring chains, a light lube like DuPont teflon works great. I use that and also the DuPont Silicone/Teflon lube in the orange can. Pretty much anything that doesn't have a heavy oil base will go a long way towards keeping things clean. The thick, heavy, dirt collecting lubes of the old days are for standard unsealed chains. O-rings don't need it.

Reminds me of when I used to clean the chain before lubing it on my 98 CBR600.

Used to rotate the wheel, thus slipping the chain through an old T-shirt with WD-40 on it held around the chain. One day I was in a rush to go back out, so I put the bike in first at idle and tried the same technique. What I'd created was the worlds first Honda meat grinder with a 599cc inline four!

Needless to say, the t-shirt got snagged, dragged round the sprocket and chopped the top of my thumb off! I was surprisingly calm after seeing my nice white bone poking out. I pushed the bike back down to the garage, wiped some of the blood off the tank. Then walked to hospital with my arm aloft like I was saying "please Darwin, pick me!"

Mate, here's me thinking that was one of those urban myths. If it wasn't so serious I would cack myself laughing. Of course I believe anything you say but a picture of the thumb might keep the demons of doubt at bay Smile.

Back to chain cleaning. I have been very happy with MOTUL Chain Clean, followed by MOTUL (Road) Chain Lube. Minimal fling and keeps there in wet etc.

Cheers

Mate, here's me thinking that was one of those urban myths. If it wasn't so serious I would cack myself laughing. Of course I believe anything you say but a picture of the thumb might keep the demons of doubt at bay Smile.

Back to chain cleaning. I have been very happy with MOTUL Chain Clean, followed by MOTUL (Road) Chain Lube. Minimal fling and keeps there in wet etc.

Cheers
I'm with Pterodactyl. I've just discovered the Motul line of chain products.
I'm very impressed with how easily the chain cleaner removes the old lube and dirt, and how well the Road Chain Lube adheres to the chain and its almost invisible. Having found this product(s), I doubt I will ever feel the need to try anything else.
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#23
When I had my store we sold a ton of MOTUL chain clean and lube.
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#24
These are the gems of inside knowledge that only a forum can provide. I now have a can of each in my Amazon cart!
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#25
I was at the Honda shop earlier this week and noticed the Motul chain products.
Time to give them a try Thumbs Up
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#26
(06-18-2014, 02:27 AM)CA200_imp Wrote: When I had my store we sold a ton of MOTUL chain clean and lube.

Old thread but I decided to try this stuff. The motul chain cleaner works really good and that is probably why you sold a lot of it CA200. My 1100 chain was nasty and probably never been cleaned nor lubed. I also decided to try the motul chain paste that comes in like a tooth paste tube to hopefully keep things less messy. I really like the way this stuff goes on. It will also barely fit under your seat if you are on a trip and need it.

I still have a little dupont chain lube and a full can of honda brand spray
chain lube but I am going to use that up on my 750. I will use the motul chain cleaner on the 750 though. I may be totally wrong but seeing how nasty the chain was on the 1100 I wonder if just keeping them relatively clean is not half of the battle to longer chain life?
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#27
The secret to chain life is keeping the rubber o rings between the rollers and the side plates pliable. Keeping the chain tension properly adjusted, and avoiding jack rabbit starts. The chains have lubrication sealed inside the roller by an oring from the factory. When the o rings dry out, crack and fall out, the internal lubrication leaks out, allowing moisture and grit to get inside individual rollers which will lock up causing a stiff spot. Keeping a chain clean on the outside will keep wear down where rollers and side plates contact the sprockets and will also lengthen the life of the sprockets themselves.

Most chain lubes will attract and keep the very abrasives we don't want on our chains.it's a catch 22. Keep them lubed and attract dirt or don't lube them and let the orings dry out. Luckily chains are so good these days that they will go 20,000 to 30,000 miles with even rudimentary care.
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#28
(02-12-2015, 01:04 PM)OldF7Guy_imp Wrote:
(06-18-2014, 02:27 AM)CA200_imp Wrote: When I had my store we sold a ton of MOTUL chain clean and lube.

Old thread but I decided to try this stuff. The motul chain cleaner works really good and that is probably why you sold a lot of it CA200. My 1100 chain was nasty and probably never been cleaned nor lubed. I also decided to try the motul chain paste that comes in like a tooth paste tube to hopefully keep things less messy. I really like the way this stuff goes on. It will also barely fit under your seat if you are on a trip and need it.

I still have a little dupont chain lube and a full can of honda brand spray
chain lube but I am going to use that up on my 750. I will use the motul chain cleaner on the 750 though. I may be totally wrong but seeing how nasty the chain was on the 1100 I wonder if just keeping them relatively clean is not half of the battle to longer chain life?

I think you're totally right. The last two chains on my CB750 (both D.I.D o-rings) went 21K miles. I never cleaned them, just a spritz of light lube every 300-400 miles. When I replaced the last one, a post mortem revealed that the accumulation of grit had simply worn away the o-rings. My friends that clean their chains religiously have been getting about twice that mileage or more. So, now I've been convinced. Bought a chain brush and some kerosene and now I give the chains a cleaning every 3K-5K miles.
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#29
What about the chain surface, will it rust from a rainstorm if I don't clean the road wet dust off and re-lube it or are we suggesting just cleaning it with kerosene or something and what, I'm confused. Sorry.
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#30
I washed the entire bike except the chain and the chain still seems incased in that white stuff that she arrived with so I left it alone and guess that waterproof stuff keep the dirt out of where it don't need to be.
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