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Insurance... Just need to vent
#1
I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone right now and just want to vent.

I've been insured with USAA for 36 years, and have all of my vehicles and house covered with my policy.

Last year, when I bought the CB300R, I added it to my policy with no problems. This past October, when I started getting the itch to get a different bike, I called to get quotes on a few different models, and was told "When you're ready to add that new bike, just give us a call." No problem.

Today, I called USAA to add the Royal Enfield, and was told that I could not add the bike to my policy. California law had changed a few years ago, and now, all registered drivers in the family must be endorsed motorcyle riders to add a bike to a policy. This is because my wife has access to the motorycles in the household, and might ride them, even though she is not licensed.

I was dumbfounded. I asked if the law had changed a few years ago, how was I able to add the CB300R just last year with no problems. And, in October, why was I given quotes on bikes, and told "just add your new bike when you're ready" ? I was told that they had made an error in letting the new bike be added last year, and that I was misinformed during my call in October.

The representative was apologetic, but said that there was nothing he could do, as it was a law. I maintained a calm tone of voice, but it was clear that I was getting upset. I asked to speak to a supervisor, and was told "I can transfer you to a supervisor, but he will not be able to change this situation." He did, and I went back and forth with a supervisor for several minutes.

At the end of the conversation, I was told that I would be allowed to keep my current bikes on my policy, although the last one was admittedly added by mistake, and as I was misinformed during my last call, that the person I spoke with, who said I would be able to add another motorcycle to my policy "would be coached" to avoid making the same mistake in the future. But, there was no way I could add the new bike to my policy.

I was livid. I maintaned my composure as best I could, and said that this was of no help to me, and wanted some sort of resolution. The supervisor said "The only thing I can do is refer you to an outside carrier that USAA works with, who may be able to help you get your motorycle insured on a non-USAA policy. He transferred me.

The next voice I heard was "Thank you for calling USAA, this is Steve, how can I help you?" I asked who Steve worked for. "This is USAA". Not an outside company? "No, this is USAA. Can I help you?"

I then explained the conversations I had with the two people I had just spoken with, and said that all I wanted to do was add my new motorycle to my USAA policy. "No problem sir, I see you've been with us for 36 years." He asked for all of the details about the Enfield, confirmed my coverages, and gave me the premium information.

"Ok, are you ready to add the new bike to your policy?" No problem whatsoever. I asked him to confirm once again that he was with USAA, and to describe the other vehicles on my policy. He named them all off, and what each was covered for.

"Steve, how did I just have two heated conversations with a representative, and a supervisor with USAA, and told that there was no way I could add this bike to my policy, while you were able to do so with no problems?" "I don't know, sir, no problem on my end, your bike is now covered." I asked him to prove it.... "No problem, check your email, and you'll see your new USAA proof of insurance card."

"Ok, Steve, can you look at my record, and see if I'm now tagged as a difficult customer in the USAA system for any reason, based on the two conversations I just had before I spoke with you?" "Nothing here, sir. I wouldn't worry about it. You've been a valuable customer for many years."

Right now I'm exhausted, shaking, and have a massive headache. What just happened?
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#2
some things are beyond comprehension.
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#3
Very strange indeed.

I have a different insurance mystery. I have several bikes insured through Progressive. The strange part is that every time I add a bike (I never seem to remove any...) my policy goes down. Only by 20 bucks each for the last couple of bikes, but I find it odd that insuring more bikes brings the total insurance bill down.
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#4
Yeah Gone, that show of incompetence was certainly a total waste of your energy. Happy Birthday man - somebody didn't get the memo (What was wrong with them!) Huh

I am glad it worked out, but crap - I've had similar experiences in other domains. It can be crazy making.

I find up here adding bikes definitely increases total insurance premium, but each bike added gets cheaper - within reason, of course. Example: If I add a 2022 Honda Gold Wing, it won't get cheaper.
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#5
Thanks… the first guy did say Happy Birthday before the conversation went sideways…
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#6
(01-10-2023, 01:25 PM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: Thanks… the first guy did say Happy Birthday before the conversation went sideways…

Well, ... that was a swerve!
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#7
Inspired, I suspect, by George Orwell, the modern world has invented all kinds of ways to make sure “customer service” is the exact opposite. The designers are improving their models every day and it is getting harder and harder and harder to work through the artfully constructed layers of obstruction.

What a fine example of this phenomenon, Gone. I’m sorry you had to take one for the team in order to share with us, but I, for one appreciate it.

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#8
I also have all my insurance and most loans through USAA. I've never had a single problem. Granted, I am in Oregon. When I insured the CB they referred me to Progressive (through USAA) and not actually USAA like my cages and home insurance, I still think that is a little bizarre.

I will say this about USAA, my wife wrecked two Subarus maybe a year apart from each other. And both times they went above and beyond to cover the loss, and take care of us with minimal increase in rates.

Edit: Definitely something not right with that "law" I'd suspect someone talking out of their butt tbh.
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#9
I’m baffled and this is my occupation. There’s no way that CA could pass a law like this that wasn’t applicable to all insurers in the state, so a “non-USAA” carrier wouldn’t have been able to assist you either. If I had to guess, the rep was given wrong information about an internal USAA rule and mistook it as CA law.

I find the idea of either a state law or even a company rule like this implausible. If implemented, they’d lose probably 25% of their customers. Riders would have to insure individual bikes on individual policies or something. Then again CA has some of the goofier laws in the country so…..
Side note: USAA is one of the best insurance companies in the US.
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#10
I know that come call centers will answer the phone with the name of the company associated with the number the call is coming at - but they are NOT that company. But they can act on behalf of those companies - so in the end, same thing.

I wonder if that is what happened to you.
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