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I am not sure what it is: I bought a Moto Guzzi Griso in 2014: what a spectacular bike!! But 2 years later it was discontinued. In 2016 I bought a second bike: a Moto Guzzi Stelvio. It was discontinued immediately. Then I purchased a 3rd bike last year: a wonderful Honda CB1100 (2016, A-model). And sure enough: it seems that they are going to be discontinued.
I guess my taste for motorcycles is not shared by the large majority of bikers...
(but I am very glad that there are forums like this one for those among us who have similar "odd" tastes!

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Yep, all of the CARC models have been discontinued.
Considering the V7 is the direct descendant of the original '70's heron head V35 and V50, and the CB1100 has a newly-designed engine intended to hark back to the look and feel of an early '80's Honda DOHC four, I'd argue the Moto Guzzi is the more "authentic" bike, whatever that means.
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(02-11-2020, 06:07 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: Yep, all of the CARC models have been discontinued.
Considering the V7 is the direct descendant of the original '70's heron head V35 and V50, and the CB1100 has a newly-designed engine intended to hark back to the look and feel of an early '80's Honda DOHC four, I'd argue the Moto Guzzi is the more "authentic" bike, whatever that means.
Yeah, "authentic".. I guess it means different things to each of us. When I made the original comment, I think the V9 Bobber was foremost in my mind, as it was the V9 I'd been considering the most.
To me, a factory "bobber" is a bit of an oxymoron.
Either way, I'm happy to have the CB.
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The small-block Guzzi V7s are nice and light. I just wished they would invest some money into the design and make them just a little bigger and faster. The big-block engines are powerful enough, but too heavy.
No matter what they do with the heads or fuel injection or displacement or transmission, they just aren't fast enough. Here's a chart of their relative specs, all from MCN. The oldest one is the fastest one.
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I never cared the Guzzis being slow (actually, I lied there). They just seem so artful. I wish they were a wee bit more 21st century reliable and have a consistent dealership support network - at least in North America.
Nice pics Richard.
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I love the look of Guzzis ( and BMWs). Just dont like riding either of them. I test rode a Breva 750 ( where's the power or the brakes)? Rode a Griso , plenty of power, none of it below 4k rpms. Same issue I have with BMWs. They are revvers and not luggers. I love my CB and my FJR (and my ST 1300 before that) because of their ability to run cleanly at 2500-3500 rpms the rpm range I prefer to ride in.
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(02-11-2020, 11:56 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I love the look of Guzzis ( and BMWs). Just dont like riding either of them. I test rode a Breva 750 ( where's the power or the brakes)? Rode a Griso , plenty of power, none of it below 4k rpms. Same issue I have with BMWs. They are revvers and not luggers. I love my CB and my FJR (and my ST 1300 before that) because of their ability to run cleanly at 2500-3500 rpms the rpm range I prefer to ride in.
I’d have to argue the case for BMW being capable of producing luggers. My R1250GS is very happy at low revs and has so much torque it pulls like a steam train without any need to rev it out.
However, I do agree with you that torquey engines (luggers) are nice to ride, which is also why I enjoy the CB.
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I've ridden several BMW's, R75, R90, R1150R Rockster, R1200R, 1600GL but have never ridden a GS, even though one of my best riding buds owned 2 of them. The R1200R I rented and my wife and I rode around Europe for 2 weeks. Thought it was a pretty nice bike other than the power band.
I'm just not big enough to ride one of those GS beasts lol. I did sit on one of his but my feet dangled in the air on both sides, and although he offered multiple times, I didn't feel comfortable riding it.