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White House K10 - a story of regeneration
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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

(10-10-2020, 11:37 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: Nine , is that a Warco bench grinder on your work bench ? , mine is 40 years old and still working great .

Well spotted!


You got me thinking. I must have bought the bench grinder to shape lathe tools for an old Myford ML4 lathe that I was given by a friend in the model boat club I joined before I went to University. That was indeed around 40 years ago, and yes, it's still working!

I took one of the grindstones off and fitted a polishing shaft, so whilst not the most powerful grinder in the world it did the job well enough to re-finish the Wyvern exhaust. I'll be trying it out again later today when I polish up the front mudguard, look out for a photo.


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

I bought my Warco bench grinder in the late seventies or early eighties at a toy makers exhibition in London . I was never good in making toy models but the show had unbelievable models of cars , bikes, boats , trains and other things.


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

More of the same today.

Using my trusty (Warco -SIP) bench grinder I re-polished the chrome on the front mudguard, rubbed down the rusty inner face with 80 grade, degreased and then gave it a quick spray over with etch primer. I'll leave that a day to dry off and will shoot wheel silver inside after work tomorrow.

Only other job was cleaning and re-polishing the mudguard bracket ready for re-assembly which I can't do until I get the headlight ears and finial fit the forks.
(10-10-2020, 10:59 PM)Houtman_imp Wrote: I bought my Warco bench grinder in the late seventies or early eighties at a toy makers exhibition in London . I was never good in making toy models but the show had unbelievable models of cars , bikes, boats , trains and other things.

I used to race radio controlled model power boats, which to be honest were somewhat akin to a guided missile. With a lot of help and encouragement from my friend Brian I managed to win a British Championship, however that was nothing compared to my other mate Dave who went on to become multiple FSR World Champion. Brian was the one who gave me his dad's old lathe which I put to good use making my own engine components. All good fun, but gave it all up when I got into cars big time...


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

Picture #3, a read handle of wire brush,,, a lot of rust on the inner fender side, never had on my ‘13 nor ‘14 either??


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

Yeah, I don't understand well into the 21st century that Honda would let rust happen to that extent. Nevertheless, it would appear [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=6179]9 has nailed that issue for the time being.


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

(10-11-2020, 05:55 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Yeah, I don't understand well into the 21st century that Honda would let rust happen to that extent. Nevertheless, it would appear [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=6179]9 has nailed that issue for the time being.

To be fair, the rear bumper is the stock Honda part, the front bumper is a White House part and the front bumper is also experiencing some corrosion spotting on the outside. Both have the same issue underneath, so both have been prepared and painted in the same way.

I appreciate its a temporary fix, at some time in the future I will either have the mudguards re-chromed or invest in making a pair of custom stainless steel mudguards.
(10-11-2020, 05:12 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Picture #3, a read handle of wire brush,,, a lot of rust on the inner fender side, never had on my ‘13 nor ‘14 either??

Yup, good spot, it's a coarse wire brush. Was very useful to remove the dirt and heavy corrosion, but nowhere near as effective as the coarse production paper.


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

I bought my 2018 EX in February, 2019. It had been slightly damaged in an accident within a week or so of purchase. As I was repairing it, I was extremely concerned at the amount of rust I was finding, in places where quite frankly, there should NEVER be any rust and certainly not on a Honda.

See my thread on the handlebar replacement (rust in the wingmirror mount)... http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14415

Or the rust on the grabrail and in the rear mudguard... [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14254&page=6]http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....254&page=6

Remember, this is on a 'bike that was barely six months and 160 miles old!!

An added problem for riders in the UK is the rotten weather at all times of the year and the large quantities of salt strewn on the road when ice threatens. Even so, this partucular 'bike had not been subject to this.
So beware of rust...


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

(10-11-2020, 08:03 AM)Bazbro_imp Wrote: I bought my 2018 EX in February, 2019. It had been slightly damaged in an accident within a week or so of purchase. As I was repairing it, I was extremely concerned at the amount of rust I was finding, in places where quite frankly, there should NEVER be any rust and certainly not on a Honda.

See my thread on the handlebar replacement (rust in the wingmirror mount)... http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14415

Or the rust on the grabrail and in the rear mudguard... [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14254&page=6]http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....254&page=6

Remember, this is on a 'bike that was barely six months and 160 miles old!!

An added problem for riders in the UK is the rotten weather at all times of the year and the large quantities of salt strewn on the road when ice threatens. Even so, this partucular 'bike had not been subject to this.
So beware of rust...

Bazbro: I have read much of the same from your Honda Africa Twin UK brethren. They simply can't believe an ADV bike rust rotting so quickly. They appear torn blaming the UK climate and Honda cheapening on materials. On the flip-side, south western state 'mericans as questioning, "Rust? What's that?" (maybe Cormanus too). One would think that Honda United Kingdom would get Hondas specially conditioned to resist the rather damp environment.


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

(10-11-2020, 01:23 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(10-11-2020, 08:03 AM)Bazbro_imp Wrote: I bought my 2018 EX in February, 2019. It had been slightly damaged in an accident within a week or so of purchase. As I was repairing it, I was extremely concerned at the amount of rust I was finding, in places where quite frankly, there should NEVER be any rust and certainly not on a Honda.

See my thread on the handlebar replacement (rust in the wingmirror mount)... http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14415

Or the rust on the grabrail and in the rear mudguard... [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14254&page=6]http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....254&page=6

Remember, this is on a 'bike that was barely six months and 160 miles old!!

An added problem for riders in the UK is the rotten weather at all times of the year and the large quantities of salt strewn on the road when ice threatens. Even so, this partucular 'bike had not been subject to this.
So beware of rust...

Bazbro: I have read much of the same from your Honda Africa Twin UK brethren. They simply can't believe an ADV bike rust rotting so quickly. They appear torn blaming the UK climate and Honda cheapening on materials. On the flip-side, south western state 'mericans as questioning, "Rust? What's that?" (maybe Cormanus too). One would think that Honda United Kingdom would get Hondas specially conditioned to resist the rather damp environment.

Bazbro: I have read much of the same from your Honda Africa Twin UK brethren. They simply can't believe an ADV bike rust rotting so quickly. They appear torn blaming the UK climate and Honda cheapening on materials. On the flip-side, south western state 'mericans as questioning, "Rust? What's that?" (maybe Cormanus too). One would think that Honda United Kingdom would get Hondas specially conditioned to resist the rather damp environment.
That's very interesting, GO. Maybe BMW's fare better in this respect, because of much less chrome and more anodised alloy/protected parts? Then the comparisons between BMW GSs and Africa Twins might become quite stark. Imagine an owner abusing his GS for a year or two, with minimal apparent corrosion, then doing the same with a much worse-protected Africa Twin...
It is the market that Honda is serving which is the decider, I think... the USA market, with its' better weather, is vastly larger than the UK, even European, market and as thickly applied chrome isn't necessary in Arizona, that's what the market decides.

But it was the rapidity of the rust formation on mine that startled me, it was far beyond what I considered 'reasonable'. I am now on the lookout for rust in little nooks and crannies where I wouldn't be looking normally. I urge others to guard against corrosion, because modern Hondas are clearly not as good in this respect as they once were.


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RE: White House K10 - a story of regeneration

(10-11-2020, 01:23 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(10-11-2020, 08:03 AM)Bazbro_imp Wrote: I bought my 2018 EX in February, 2019. It had been slightly damaged in an accident within a week or so of purchase. As I was repairing it, I was extremely concerned at the amount of rust I was finding, in places where quite frankly, there should NEVER be any rust and certainly not on a Honda.

See my thread on the handlebar replacement (rust in the wingmirror mount)... http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14415

Or the rust on the grabrail and in the rear mudguard... [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14254&page=6]http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....254&page=6

Remember, this is on a 'bike that was barely six months and 160 miles old!!

An added problem for riders in the UK is the rotten weather at all times of the year and the large quantities of salt strewn on the road when ice threatens. Even so, this partucular 'bike had not been subject to this.
So beware of rust...

Bazbro: I have read much of the same from your Honda Africa Twin UK brethren. They simply can't believe an ADV bike rust rotting so quickly. They appear torn blaming the UK climate and Honda cheapening on materials. On the flip-side, south western state 'mericans as questioning, "Rust? What's that?" (maybe Cormanus too). One would think that Honda United Kingdom would get Hondas specially conditioned to resist the rather damp environment.

Sadly not so, but then I live in a humid part of the country. Not that it should be relevant. To be fit for purpose, bikes ought to be built to withstand rain and weather. Or at least mine should be. I've got bits and pieces of rust where it shouldn't be and other Australians have also reported it. My view is that the build quality of the CB1100 leaves a little to be desired.


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