Ducati (ex) owners?

[Riko_imp]

New update!
Unfortunately a not so cool update because I eventually ended up with the same bombastic loaner bike Supderduke

So I got a phone call, much faster than expected, because the needed parts already came in from a previous order, so I could pick up my Multi, the oil leak should be solved.
Than I got ready to ride off, and after a few meters I got a yellow engine light

Luckely I just had to turn around to come back, and that was already 30 minutes before closing time

I'm gonna give my dealer kuddos
They've worked for more than an hour to try and find the problem, well after closing hours...
Majority of the workers already started the weekend, but the head mechanic was even phoned and he came asap to join the understaffed crew of 2 men, but all that didnt work out for my bike.

The coupled it to the diagnose tool, lifted it on the workbench and did some rides, but no quick fix as it turns out.


Propably a purely electronic problem, perhaps a sensor?
But after some tinkering the engine light only came on above 7000rpms, so it would have something to do with the DVT system...a system similar to Honda's VTec, only VTec did not kick in yo

So yeah, they did everything they could at that short time period to fix an unexpected funky italian electronics issue, but without succes.

So now I'm gonna put things into perspective, chill, be patient and rely on the certainty that once I will get a perfectly working Multi

[Riko_imp]

Well, to be honest, if I would not be a owner, I would comment the same thing.

Actually its the second issue I had, just the same, yellow engine light, but no engine problem
So purely electronic, and from what they could tell, its the same issue now, purely electronic.

Last time I "fixed" it by disabling the battery.
When going to the dealer just for a check up, they found a list of errors on the pc, wich I did not see nor notice, but they were there.
They just cleared the errors for 50 euro and it was gone.
50 euro though

I wonder if BMW or KTM are just as funky in the electronics department, since they do share the same basic electronic components you know.
Would you also make the same jokes about BMW?
Problem is, Ducati did have issues in the past wich earned their name, and BMW did not.

Anyway, the oil leak was the dealers fault, wich he tried to remedy as good as he could with his service and post-treatment.
Mind you my CB had the idle issue, wich to date is not know nor fixed from Honda.
Luckely mine was still in the second hand warranty period of year after purchase (dunno if many other countries have this obliged warranty period for second hand vechicles bought from professionals), but if it was outside the warranty, it woudl have cost me 2000 euro's to fix as well....

When the bike was in for that fix, I had a loaner bike as well:

Apart from it being a low end bike, and ugly as cuss, the state of the bike was the worst thing, it was a genuine huge pile of cuss!
The brakes were cuss, wich was dangerous and it rode like cuss too.
Squeaks everywhere it seemed.
And mind you it was the same period as now, even colder and rainy weather.
Very dangerous and unprofessional the dealer gave me that bike as a loaner.
And they didnt even fill it up with gas for me
Ow, little detail, I bought my CB from that dealer.

This dealer, I went 3 times to him in total, including returning twice, and I got 2 different bikes as a loaner:
XDiavel
KTM Superduke GT
And I did not buy my Multi from that dealer.
Thats what I call service

But yeah, you can say the ducati is unreliable, but is that unreliability or just inconvenient?
Because lets face it, electronics that get funky and that can be solved by hooking it on a computer isnt the same as an huge mechanical haul over.

Bike went in for the big expensive Desmo service, dealer cuss up and the bike leaked, upon fixing that, somehow the law of Murphy applies on the electronics parts of the bike today, I am not gonna cry about it, like I said, they will find and fix the issue and the bike will be even better as before, like I already experienced before the oil leak was discovered

To be honest, if the bike wil always show up these funky electronical issues every Desmo service, but will be spotless in all other areas, I'll be glad to undergo these short temporary discomforts because it rides like a hoot

I'm still getting 12.700 miles in 19 months and keep planning to do so.
If I had the money I wouldn't sell the CB, but as of now, I do not regret having this Ducati in its place since it has served me well for my main type of riding.

Update will come, I expect next weekend since it must be a small tiny funky thing

I *sigh* when I see a late model Ducati parked alone on the road side. I mean, really - this is 2016, 2017, and 2018 folks. I figure electrical/electronic woes since everything else appears "okay". This is not unlike the volume of electrical problems that plagued VW and BMW prior to 2010. Maybe just some over-engineered incompetence? Or, maybe some German electronics in the Ducati?

like said in my post above, I know the top end Duc-BMW-KTM bikes share the same Bosch electronics (6 axis IMU).

The way they connect and implement it in their bike is what might differ though...
Would be curious to know as well how these bike compare in electronic issues like these.

Not ashamed to admit that Ducati seems to have a tradition in funky electronics.

We'll see I guess, but as fast as they go, they also should be easy to fix.
(but not today unfortunatelly)

[peterbaron]

as far as I could understand the mechanic, its also 'oil controlled' yes

not sure about the technicals in detail though

but after a quick search, I'd assume its works à la VTec indeed
https://ducatiparts-online.com/ducati-cy...0023a.html

Rico,
Yap, this is what I thought, called OCV = Oil Control Valve.
In general, its normal resistance at 20*C is about 7.5 Ohms, operated by B+, the oil flow is regulated by varying the duty cycle of the ground supply. FYI, if the OCV is lacking oil supply, it may stall the engine at lower RPM, or when coming to a stop, mostly when oil is hot, thin and/or very low level. How many do you have per cylinder, one or two? If one , will mostly be on the exhaust side....
I deal with this issue very often on cars. OCV controls CVVT (alters cam timing) unit on our cars/design, and VVT/DVT on your Xdiavel Multistrada 1200.
What was the DTCode for your VVT/DVT ?

[Riko_imp]

One more on the other side and it looks like my Multi has afterburners.