Possible CB1100X coming ...

[Frulk_imp]

Bring the 1300cc Super Bol ‘Dor (or however it’s hyphenated) over to the US and I’d run to the local Honda dealership barefoot across freshly broken bottle shards wearing nothing but a kilt and a smile... This CB1100X?......meh.

[misterprofessionality]

That Africa twin engine is....hnnnggggg.. .glorious. but this isn't the thing that would get me off my CB1100. Especially because I'm sure it will be DCT.

[rboe]

If the 2022 Honda NT1100 SS goes real and has shaft final drive, I will have a problem.

Me too......

[tod.branko_imp]

Why is there so much space above the rear tire?
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How much space would you like there to be? Maybe it just feels like that to you because these bikes often have an exhaust in that area, but in reality it's just normal space for a big trailie.

And this bike is totally me. I could so live with it, if my wife knew she'd be jealous. DCT? Bring it on. There always was a special place in my heart for trailies, and I have to admit that out of all the motorcycles I've ever owned, the two I miss the most, and catch myself thinking about them are the Versys 650 and the Tiger 1050.

I also suspect this motorcycle will be popular with the police departments, I guess that's why there will be a white option with saddlebags and tall windscreen.

I'm game, where do I sign?



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[GoldOxide_imp]

Keep in mind the posted images so far in this thread of envisioned best-guess prototypes by non-Honda artists.

[4 Paws_imp]

Fully kitted out as a sports tourer with luggage interests me.

[tod.branko_imp]

Keep in mind the posted images so far in this thread of envisioned best-guess prototypes by non-Honda artists.

I don't have a gripe with that, even if it's a little bit off, it's the concept that matters.

And if I may ask, why is everyone so keen on this bine coming with a shaft drive??

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[GoldOxide_imp]

Keep in mind the posted images so far in this thread of envisioned best-guess prototypes by non-Honda artists.

I don't have a gripe with that, even if it's a little bit off, it's the concept that matters.

And if I may ask, why is everyone so keen on this bine coming with a shaft drive??

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

I don't have a gripe with that, even if it's a little bit off, it's the concept that matters.

And if I may ask, why is everyone so keen on this bine coming with a shaft drive??

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed
For those who care to bother, I reckon shaft final drive is incredibly convenient to maintain - well, there is nothing to maintain. Unsophisticated earlier Japanese versions seem to be lighter implementations of current European versions (think BMW, Moto Guzzi). If ultimate every-drop-of-horse power is unimportant, touring with a shaft is just glorious bliss.

[tod.branko_imp]

Keep in mind the posted images so far in this thread of envisioned best-guess prototypes by non-Honda artists.

I don't have a gripe with that, even if it's a little bit off, it's the concept that matters.

And if I may ask, why is everyone so keen on this bine coming with a shaft drive??

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

I don't have a gripe with that, even if it's a little bit off, it's the concept that matters.

And if I may ask, why is everyone so keen on this bine coming with a shaft drive??

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed
For those who care to bother, I reckon shaft final drive is incredibly convenient to maintain - well, there is nothing to maintain. Unsophisticated earlier Japanese versions seem to be lighter implementations of current European versions (think BMW, Moto Guzzi). If ultimate every-drop-of-horse power is unimportant, touring with a shaft is just glorious bliss.

I don't have a gripe with that, even if it's a little bit off, it's the concept that matters.

And if I may ask, why is everyone so keen on this bine coming with a shaft drive??

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed
For those who care to bother, I reckon shaft final drive is incredibly convenient to maintain - well, there is nothing to maintain. Unsophisticated earlier Japanese versions seem to be lighter implementations of current European versions (think BMW, Moto Guzzi). If ultimate every-drop-of-horse power is unimportant, touring with a shaft is just glorious bliss. I totally understand the convenience of a shaft, what I meant was why THIS motorcycle, it's not just here, also people on the website and social media keep talking about shaft drive for the NT1100. Africa Twin is not shaft driven, neither is the Rebel 1100, why would the sports bike of the bunch be any different?
I just thought you all knew something I didn't. TBH I'm kinda hoping Honda will throw in the supercharged 1100 they submitted for patent back in October, and not just the regular on from the CRF.
Anyways, I like this one, I'm excited, I'll probably end up buying it used/crashed in a couple of years

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

[the Ferret]

Convenience.

Raise your hands... who here would buy a chain drive car?

If you don't ride a lot, it really doesn't matter how your bike is powered and MOST motorcyclists ride about 2500-3000 miles a year. In their case, a chain and sprockets or belt will last longer than they own the bike probably. At least 10 years.

But lets say you ride a lot. 20-25,000 miles a year like some of us do. A chain and sprockets will last a season MAYBE 2. I average about 24,700 miles a year. The original chain and sprocket set on my CB lasted 36,000 miles at which time it was $400 parts and labor to replace. I've now ridden 25,000 miles on the second set. So if it lives as long as the first set I have about 11,000 miles to go before it needs another $400 repair. or $800 in 75,000 miles.

Lets compare that to the shaft drive on my ST 1300 and my FJR. I put 110,000 miles on the ST and 38,000 miles on the FJR (before trading it in) and my cost to repair for 148,000 miles was $ ZERO.

There is some maintenance with both systems. With the chain it's adjustment and lubrication. With the shaft it was changing the rear end oil. If you ask me which one I prefer doing being a non mechanical type guy, it's changing the rear end fluid on the shaft. It's like changing the oil on the CB only skip the filter part of the process. Pull a drain plug, drain the fluid, replace the drain plug, pour in 7 oz of 80/90 wt oil once a year, twice if you're anal.

All that said, the CB 1100 should be chain drive, if nothing else for looks and tradition. I have no gripe with that.

But a sport touring bike like the NT 1100 designed with fairing and bags to go cross country and back really should have a shaft.

The AT in my opinion should also have a shaft because it's designed to compete with the shaft driven GS BMW and the shaft driven Yamaha Super Tenere' meant for cross country riding

Going with chains on bikes like these is really cheap on Honda's part, who used to make shaft drives available on bikes as small as 500cc.

I wish my NC750X had a shaft (and cruise since it already has fly by wire throttle)