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(04-24-2022, 12:27 PM)Stichill_imp Wrote: (04-24-2022, 02:55 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: With its regenerative braking, your buddy could probably leave home on a full charge, ride up Pike’s Peak, then return home fully charged again. I'm pretty sure my buddy bought the optional extended range version which goes 227 miles. He said most of the small towns in the mountains have a Level 2 charger that will get him good to go in about an hour and a quarter, so basically a lunch stop. He said the primary maintenance task is keeping an eye on belt tension but there's an app that listens to the frequency when you rap on it with a wrench. Pretty cool!
Sounds like a guitar tuner ... app.
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(04-24-2022, 12:27 PM)Stichill_imp Wrote: (04-24-2022, 02:55 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: With its regenerative braking, your buddy could probably leave home on a full charge, ride up Pike’s Peak, then return home fully charged again. I'm pretty sure my buddy bought the optional extended range version which goes 227 miles. He said most of the small towns in the mountains have a Level 2 charger that will get him good to go in about an hour and a quarter, so basically a lunch stop. He said the primary maintenance task is keeping an eye on belt tension but there's an app that listens to the frequency when you rap on it with a wrench. Pretty cool!
I am very tempted to go electric. I am even willing to sell my 2 gas-powered bikes for it, but it is the range that stops me. 227 miles is certainly getting close (although the Zero website claims a max of 223 miles). However, those are city-miles!! If one rides mainly on highways or without stop&go-traffic, the Zero site tells me that this number comes down to 112 miles, or to 150 miles for a combined city/highway trip. Also, if the weather is colder than sunny California (e.g. in all of Canada during 9 months of the year), the range decreases by a lot!
My wife commutes to work in a Tesla Model 3 - and loves it, but there is a serious difference between theoretical and practical range.
All in all, if the range goes up to a real-life figure of 200 miles (300 kms), I am sold. Until then, I will wait.
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I demo rode an SRF at the last IMS show here in California. In sport mode, I hit 70 before my brain knew what happened, and it was a very nice ride. If money weren't an issue, I could see owning one.
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(04-26-2022, 03:28 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: I demo rode an SRF at the last IMS show here in California. In sport mode, I hit 70 before my brain knew what happened, and it was a very nice ride. If money weren't an issue, I could see owning one.
Price aside, EV motorcycles are ideal for LA climate and commutes.
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Depends on the commute, of course. I can get a full five-day week of commuting with 150 miles, which is the tank range of my three bikes. If I wanted to go electric, I'd probably need to charge during the week. But, I'd think that a full charge on a motorcycle could be had overnight with a standard 110v outlet. Probably wouldn't bother upgrading my electric to 240v, like most of my neighbors with electric cars are doing.
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(04-26-2022, 07:39 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: Depends on the commute, of course. I can get a full five-day week of commuting with 150 miles, which is the tank range of my three bikes. If I wanted to go electric, I'd probably need to charge during the week. But, I'd think that a full charge on a motorcycle could be had overnight with a standard 110v outlet. Probably wouldn't bother upgrading my electric to 240v, like most of my neighbors with electric cars are doing.
Yeah, the standard single phase 115 VAC should suffice for the bikes.
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If you are not in a hurry to recharge
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Voltage here is 220V as standard (240V in the UK). My work colleagues Nissan Leaf will take a zero to full charge in 6-8 hours on a 32A charging circuit. It is pretty impressive. He will do that at night on a timer for the cheaper rate electricty too.
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I was thinking about that, Tev. So, you guys don't have to upgrade your household electrics to charge EVs, right?
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(04-27-2022, 01:46 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: I was thinking about that, Tev. So, you guys don't have to upgrade your household electrics to charge EVs, right? The reason Europe runs 220-240V is to double the voltage and halve the amperage, so the wire gauge can be smaller / cheaper. Smart in some ways, though I'm not a fan of the huge, awkward isolating plug/receptacle standards.
So, although the voltage is double, the circuit ampacity is half...so kVA is about equal.
US: 120V * 20A * 80% safety derating = 1.92 kVA
EU: 240V * 10A * 80% safety derating = 1.92 kVA
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