06-07-2013, 08:24 AM
I use Mobile 1 motorcycle full synthetic 10w40. I live in Florida and its HOT here in the summer.
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06-07-2013, 08:24 AM
I use Mobile 1 motorcycle full synthetic 10w40. I live in Florida and its HOT here in the summer.
06-07-2013, 09:12 AM
In a brand new bike costing over $10,000 why would you use anything other than the manufacturer recommended oil...which is not full synthetic?
I'm just asking. ![]() The recommended oil is 10W30 SJ.
06-07-2013, 09:46 AM
(06-07-2013, 09:12 AM)meowguy_imp Wrote: In a brand new bike costing over $10,000 why would you use anything other than the manufacturer recommended oil...which is not full synthetic?terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.
06-07-2013, 10:44 AM
(06-07-2013, 09:46 AM)oldyaler_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 09:12 AM)meowguy_imp Wrote: In a brand new bike costing over $10,000 why would you use anything other than the manufacturer recommended oil...which is not full synthetic?terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs. To each their own I guess, but the only oil going in mine will be Pro Honda GN4. And GN4 is available in 10W40 for hotter climates. Extended oil life in a motorcycle is not something I think we should strive for. The factory change cycle is almost always disregarded in favor of more frequent oil changes. My Tundra was built for synthetic oil, yet it gets changed at half the duty cycle. Pro Honda is specially formulated for cycle engines. These are the guys that own Indy Car racing. I think I'll trust their advice when it comes to my bike. I just have no good reason not to. JMHO.
06-07-2013, 10:53 AM
(06-07-2013, 10:44 AM)meowguy_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 09:46 AM)oldyaler_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 09:12 AM)meowguy_imp Wrote: In a brand new bike costing over $10,000 why would you use anything other than the manufacturer recommended oil...which is not full synthetic?terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs. To each their own I guess, but the only oil going in mine will be Pro Honda GN4. And GN4 is available in 10W40 for hotter climates. Extended oil life in a motorcycle is not something I think we should strive for. The factory change cycle is almost always disregarded in favor of more frequent oil changes. My Tundra was built for synthetic oil, yet it gets changed at half the duty cycle. Pro Honda is specially formulated for cycle engines. These are the guys that own Indy Car racing. I think I'll trust their advice when it comes to my bike. I just have no good reason not to. JMHO. Everybody has their favorite brands and price has a lot to do with what someone chooses. As long as it meets SJ specs it's all good.
06-07-2013, 10:00 PM
(06-07-2013, 10:53 AM)oldyaler_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 10:44 AM)meowguy_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 09:46 AM)oldyaler_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 09:12 AM)meowguy_imp Wrote: In a brand new bike costing over $10,000 why would you use anything other than the manufacturer recommended oil...which is not full synthetic?terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs. To each their own I guess, but the only oil going in mine will be Pro Honda GN4. And GN4 is available in 10W40 for hotter climates. Extended oil life in a motorcycle is not something I think we should strive for. The factory change cycle is almost always disregarded in favor of more frequent oil changes. My Tundra was built for synthetic oil, yet it gets changed at half the duty cycle. Pro Honda is specially formulated for cycle engines. These are the guys that own Indy Car racing. I think I'll trust their advice when it comes to my bike. I just have no good reason not to. JMHO. Everybody has their favorite brands and price has a lot to do with what someone chooses. As long as it meets SJ specs it's all good. I freely admit I don't know much about oil which is why I have to be very careful. Going by API rating I was going to use my old stand-by Castrol GTX which is rated SM, SL, SJ, SH. There is the magic "SJ" so you think it's ok to use. Until you see that "Energy Conserving" moniker on the API label. Honda does not recommend Energy Conserving oils in this motor. I'm just sayin if you can afford this bike, you can afford the recommended oil.
06-18-2013, 06:43 AM
Nice job thanks!
06-18-2013, 06:51 AM
(06-07-2013, 10:00 PM)meowguy_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 10:53 AM)oldyaler_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 10:44 AM)meowguy_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 09:46 AM)oldyaler_imp Wrote:terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs.(06-07-2013, 09:12 AM)meowguy_imp Wrote: In a brand new bike costing over $10,000 why would you use anything other than the manufacturer recommended oil...which is not full synthetic?terrydlargo lives in Florida where the temps in summer can be extreme so a higher viscosity oil will retain it's viscosity better. Synthetic oils also have higher shear strength than petroleum based oils, thus, they will last longer before they need to be changed. Any type of oil can be used as long as it meets SJ specs. To each their own I guess, but the only oil going in mine will be Pro Honda GN4. And GN4 is available in 10W40 for hotter climates. Extended oil life in a motorcycle is not something I think we should strive for. The factory change cycle is almost always disregarded in favor of more frequent oil changes. My Tundra was built for synthetic oil, yet it gets changed at half the duty cycle. Pro Honda is specially formulated for cycle engines. These are the guys that own Indy Car racing. I think I'll trust their advice when it comes to my bike. I just have no good reason not to. JMHO. Everybody has their favorite brands and price has a lot to do with what someone chooses. As long as it meets SJ specs it's all good. I freely admit I don't know much about oil which is why I have to be very careful. Going by API rating I was going to use my old stand-by Castrol GTX which is rated SM, SL, SJ, SH. There is the magic "SJ" so you think it's ok to use. Until you see that "Energy Conserving" moniker on the API label. Honda does not recommend Energy Conserving oils in this motor. I'm just sayin if you can afford this bike, you can afford the recommended oil. Oops, my bad. I was thinking in terms of motorcycle specific oils. I forgot to put that in my reply.
06-22-2013, 09:33 AM
Great job Ferret, I would only suggest adding 2 things:
I always fill my filters with fresh oil and let them sit for about 10 mins before I install them. Most of it will soak in, but it can only reduce the oil starvation time. Since I just got mine yesterday, I am not sure if the cb 1100 will spin over with the red engine switch off, but whenever I change the oil in the XR 650L, I crank her with the engine switch off to rebuild the oil pressure, the fire her up.
06-23-2013, 03:19 PM
If the switch is off you get no cranking.
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