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I plan to change over to a 100% synthetic motor oil soon, and I would like to completely drain all of the existing engine oil first. (2014 Deluxe). The owner's manual states that you need 4.1 U.S. quarts for an oil and filter change, and 5.2 U.S. quarts "after disassembly". This means that there must be 1.1 quarts of oil remaining somewhere (oil cooler and oil cooler lines?). Any suggestions on how to drain this remaining 1.1 quarts of used engine oil without disassembling my engine?
Thank you.
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You can't get all the oil out without splitting the cases just drain out all you can and then refill. In a few oil changes you will have mostly all one kind of oil.
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(05-05-2014, 02:01 PM)Dave_imp Wrote: I plan to change over to a 100% synthetic motor oil soon, and I would like to completely drain all of the existing engine oil first. (2014 Deluxe). The owner's manual states that you need 4.1 U.S. quarts for an oil and filter change, and 5.2 U.S. quarts "after disassembly". This means that there must be 1.1 quarts of oil remaining somewhere (oil cooler and oil cooler lines?). Any suggestions on how to drain this remaining 1.1 quarts of used engine oil without disassembling my engine?
Thank you.
Practically speaking, you don't. There are little nooks and crannies inside an engine where small amounts of oil will collect and won't drain to the crankcase.
Your best bet is to change the oil when it's hot. Hot oil is thinner and flows better.
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Oh goody, another oil thread
If you really want to 'purge' the factory oil out, you'll have to do two oil changes in rapid succession. It's wasteful and unnecessary but it'll achieve what you're asking for.
I think I read on another forum recently about a guy who applied the same logic to washing his hair as oil changes and said since he applies shampoo, rinses and reapplies, he does the same with oil changes, and does two back to back.
Personally I think that's nuts, but we all have our OCD compulsions to cater for.
My worst one is when using the back brake at low speed I subconsciously push the front brake lever away with my knuckles. I didn't realise I did this until I noticed I was 'fighting' the C-ABS as it pulled the lever in against my will.
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(05-05-2014, 07:04 PM)Tortuga_imp Wrote: Oh goody, another oil thread
If you really want to 'purge' the factory oil out, you'll have to do two oil changes in rapid succession. It's wasteful and unnecessary but it'll achieve what you're asking for.
I think I read on another forum recently about a guy who applied the same logic to washing his hair as oil changes and said since he applies shampoo, rinses and reapplies, he does the same with oil changes, and does two back to back.
Personally I think that's nuts, but we all have our OCD compulsions to cater for.
My worst one is when using the back brake at low speed I subconsciously push the front brake lever away with my knuckles. I didn't realise I did this until I noticed I was 'fighting' the C-ABS as it pulled the lever in against my will.
That's a weird habit. How did you develop that one?
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There just happened to he an article in one of the bike mags out this month that mentioned concerns about mixing dino and synthetic oil. According to them its absolutely no problem at all, even in larger quantities (like topping up a low tank/crankcase with the "wrong" oil.)
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(05-05-2014, 09:25 PM)The Spaceman_imp Wrote: There just happened to he an article in one of the bike mags out this month that mentioned concerns about mixing dino and synthetic oil. According to them its absolutely no problem at all, even in larger quantities (like topping up a low tank/crankcase with the "wrong" oil.)
I know nothing about oil. When I was young and cars and bikes leaked the stuff all over the place or burned it up, you used to put pretty much anything in to top it up and there wasn't a problem. When I suggested I needed to top up the CB recently, the person at the dealers had apoplexy at the idea I might use anything other than the brand that had gone in at the last service.
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(05-05-2014, 09:25 PM)The Spaceman_imp Wrote: There just happened to he an article in one of the bike mags out this month that mentioned concerns about mixing dino and synthetic oil. According to them its absolutely no problem at all, even in larger quantities (like topping up a low tank/crankcase with the "wrong" oil.)
+1, you are absolutely right. If there were a compatibility issue, no one would be able to switch to synthetic. And what of the "semi-synthetic" oils that are blend of petroleum and synthetic bases? You can buy them all day long.
You'll just have a little dino oil in there until you've done a few changes. Changing oil is fun and it makes us feel like we've done something demonstrably beneficial for the motorcycle, so most people seem to do it far more often than necessary.
On that philosophical point, it's a lot like sex.
Not with the motorcycle, hopefully.
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(05-05-2014, 09:10 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: (05-05-2014, 07:04 PM)Tortuga_imp Wrote: Oh goody, another oil thread
If you really want to 'purge' the factory oil out, you'll have to do two oil changes in rapid succession. It's wasteful and unnecessary but it'll achieve what you're asking for.
I think I read on another forum recently about a guy who applied the same logic to washing his hair as oil changes and said since he applies shampoo, rinses and reapplies, he does the same with oil changes, and does two back to back.
Personally I think that's nuts, but we all have our OCD compulsions to cater for.
My worst one is when using the back brake at low speed I subconsciously push the front brake lever away with my knuckles. I didn't realise I did this until I noticed I was 'fighting' the C-ABS as it pulled the lever in against my will.
That's a weird habit. How did you develop that one?
That's a weird habit. How did you develop that one?
To be honest I'm not sure I ever had it before I felt the encroaching lever of the combined ABS system..it may be a defence reflex that I've just 'invented'.
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i was surprised when i found that by leaving the drain plug/filter off overnight...that an additional 1/2 quart would drain out(to be clear this is an ST1300 & not CB1100) compared to the usual 5 minutes+/- for usual oil change...evidently there is that much oil that will drain down from engine into pan if left to drain for the 8 hours(or so)...you might try this...as it has become my oil change routine of choice for my fleet(i also run bike to operating temp before starting oil change)...just be sure to not have dusty air blowing about!...and don't forget that you have rest of oil change to do with replacement of drain plug/new filter/ dispose of oil drain container beneath bike(on center stand)!!
