Viva Las Vegas!

[HikerToo_imp]

MG, the map is in your PCV, hook the device up to your PC via USB cable, run their software and it will find the PCV, you can than display the settings , export the settings to a file or edit the settings, that's how they do it too. Or when they post the map, it can be downloaded and displayed in the same software.

[metallyguitarded_imp]

Thanks HikerToo. I've downloaded the software and will give it a shot. They didn't give me a USB cable but I understand it's a standard type of USB. I probably have one around here somewhere. It's a cold, rainy, lazy Sunday here. I'll be putting on my bar ends and downloading the fuel map!

[metallyguitarded_imp]

I was able to download the map and it's very interesting.

[url=http://s51.photobucket.com/user/jamesfontaine/media/DynojetCustomFuelMap01082015.png.html]

In the ranges where I spend most of my time (2500 to 5750 rpm and 40% to 80% throttle), the AFR was enriched. Below and above that, the AFR was leaned out; in particular, above 6,000 rpm and between 40% and 80% throttle. I compared it to your (HikerToo) map and it's very different throughout. I'm just going to trust that they knew what they were doing and will continue to monitor the ride through my built-in, state of the art, backside dyno.

[HikerToo_imp]

Hmm....interesting.
That 40% column where it drops to -1 at 3750 and 4000 from a +5 and +4 sticks out...considering the 60% column next to it is at 3 & 4 at same RPM....

[metallyguitarded_imp]

I accept that I still have so much to learn about all of this (and so much more)! Makes life interesting, right? Just wait until the maintenance schedule gets more complicated than oil changes and chain adjustments.

[CIP57_imp]

I was able to download the map and it's very interesting.

[url=http://s51.photobucket.com/user/jamesfontaine/media/DynojetCustomFuelMap01082015.png.html]

In the ranges where I spend most of my time (2500 to 5750 rpm and 40% to 80% throttle), the AFR was enriched. Below and above that, the AFR was leaned out; in particular, above 6,000 rpm and between 40% and 80% throttle. I compared it to your (HikerToo) map and it's very different throughout. I'm just going to trust that they knew what they were doing and will continue to monitor the ride through my built-in, state of the art, backside dyno.

These value's are off of a stock ECU, if I had to guess Honda added fuel to the 2014 Model either through air intake, exhaust management or timing and was able to richen the value's and still meet EPA requirements.
I can't find Gregs stock A/F ratio's for his bike but I memory serves correctly his 2013 was running much leaner than your 2014 stock.
Both maps where done by the same company.

Just a theory!!!!

[metallyguitarded_imp]

Interesting theory. And, so far, it's the best one running! I wonder though, would Honda engineers have adjusted the AFR absent complaints from 2013 owners? I'm only assuming they didn't receive complaints because everyone here with the 2013 model seems very happy with the bike's performance. Watching those videos on how the bike was designed, it does appear that tremendous thought and meticulous planning went into the project. Would this perfectionism, if it's fair to call it that, result in refinements to the AFRs for the 2014 model? Maybe.

Anyone have a Honda engineer's email address? Because I have Google Translate and I'm not afraid to use it!

[the Ferret]

I think its safe to say there will be differences in any two objects mass produced, no matter how close the tolerances. Some are bound to run better, or run cooler, or shift better, or produce more horsepower than others and vice versa.

I have heard, but can't confirm, that magazine editors get the best running models to test.

[CIP57_imp]

I think its possible given the fact that a extra gear was added they tweaked the ECU as well on the new model. Different motors within the same model will have different tolerances but the manufacturer has no way of knowing and does not tweak each bike for best performance, therefore all the ECU come with the same A/F ratio dialed in.

[HikerToo_imp]

Maybe DynoJet would know why they are so different? Between 2013 and 14
Also, I forget, did you have a full exhaust on your 2014? If so, maybe ECU was compensating for it, so their PCV had to cut back a little on fuel mixture?